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Originally Posted by Handy Man
(Post 1027433)
soo.... don't use the stock case!
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1026139)
Spend a bunch of money swapping an alternate OEM box with shitty gear ratios into the car, or $$buy$$ a Quaife 5sp with gear ratios similar to the 6-speed (i.e. good for road racing). I did the latter and don't regret it yet.
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I have a mazdaspeed box. The shot-peened claim has long been debated, but if it matters, my gears are still intact. AMSOil MTG.
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I think your best bet will be the TII swap or a for big power, Find a G-force GSR four speed. I have a 2002 6speed and it hasnt broken any teeth yet but my 330ftlbs doesnt come in untill 6800 rpm
I could have sworn you guys (sav) had said that the quaife gear set was rubbish due to sticking it into a shitty 5spd case. PPG used to offer 6spd straight cut dog sets. |
Originally Posted by ctdrftna
(Post 1027513)
I think your best bet will be the TII swap or a for big power, Find a G-force GSR four speed. I have a 2002 6speed and it hasnt broken any teeth yet but my 330ftlbs doesnt come in untill 6800 rpm
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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1027515)
The trouble with that T101a based 4 speed is that 4th gear is direct drive, aka its 1:1. So you need an interesting rear end to run it. Of course when you're getting into the 300+ ftlbs of torque area, maybe a change of rear end isnt a bad idea.
For drag or drifting 4speed all the way. |
As long as the ratio's are good and you don't do standing starts, you would be fine with a 4 speed. You just might have a stupid long 1st which would be a b$%#@ to get moving.
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Originally Posted by Handy Man
(Post 1027561)
As long as the ratio's are good and you don't do standing starts, you would be fine with a 4 speed. You just might have a stupid long 1st which would be a b$%#@ to get moving.
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I use only 3-5 on most tracks and would not like to shift more often.
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Originally Posted by Handy Man
(Post 1027561)
As long as the ratio's are good and you don't do standing starts, you would be fine with a 4 speed. You just might have a stupid long 1st which would be a b$%#@ to get moving.
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Originally Posted by miata2fast
(Post 1027592)
I do not think an FI car would have a problem.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1027965)
I fail to see how forced induction makes any sort of difference (unless you plan to leave every stoplight on boost).
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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1027566)
If the first was between a 5 speed 2nd and a 6 speed 3rd. Would it really be that bad? You would have to slip clutch/spin tires to launch quickly from a stop and you might want to winch it on the trailer. But from the few times I've spaced out on the street and left the stock miata in 2nd and pulled away from a stop, it wasnt that bad.
A 4-speed T101-based setup would work on a road race car that was winched onto a trailer and was geared for 80-105-135-170mph in 1-2-3-4th. Paddock crawling would be all but impossible, but it would work on track. This is why I think the 6-speeds and the Quaife boxes have the gearing down pat, and any custom solution should match those ratios within 2mph. The 6-speed gives two crawler gears, the Quaife gives one, but both boxes give 4 usable ratios on track. |
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1027993)
This is why I think the 6-speeds and the Quaife boxes have the gearing down pat, and any custom solution should match those ratios within 2mph. The 6-speed gives two crawler gears, the Quaife gives one, but both boxes give 4 usable ratios on track.
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Originally Posted by k24madness
(Post 1028019)
Is there any hope for making a 6 speed shift better? I have never had any issues on track with other cars but this 6 speed is tough!
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Not sure if anyone has seen this company? I've delt with them for FWD G-series stuff but not anything RWD. The dogleg 5speed definatly has me intrigued, seems like much less misshifts would be possble. But being as 5th is 1:1 not sure its usable... They also have dog and syncro engagments for the 6 speed too
MAZDA CPBoost Custom Billet Gears |
Originally Posted by Handy Man
(Post 1027561)
As long as the ratio's are good and you don't do standing starts, you would be fine with a 4 speed. You just might have a stupid long 1st which would be a b$%#@ to get moving.
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1027965)
I fail to see how forced induction makes any sort of difference (unless you plan to leave every stoplight on boost).
Higher horsepower per weight cars need taller starting line gear ratios than lower powered cars to maximize their 60' potential. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1028024)
It takes some getting used to, so just slow down your shifts until you stop missing them and then slowly ramp the speed back up.
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Originally Posted by k24madness
(Post 1028019)
Is there any hope for making a 6 speed shift better? I have never had any issues on track with other cars but this 6 speed is tough!
I looked at CP boost before. Parts made in mexico, lead time of whenever they get around to it. twice as expensive as quaife. It only make sense if you need custom ratios. |
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