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rrjwilson 08-20-2018 10:37 AM

As the folks here have stated harnesses are for race seat.
Mix and match very much at your own risk.

However I understand the urge as harnesses are snuggly (maybe i should tighten them) and race seats are uncomfortable for a long commute.
For regular seats you could do a lot worse than the CG lock device. It allows you to get a somewhat snug lap belt tension whilst maintaining the variable belt helpful stuff.
Its not a harness but its far more snug than a normal belt.

psreynol 08-20-2018 11:04 AM

I was going to say the same thing. seat belt lock

https://store.windingroad.com/cg-loc...dd-on-p49.aspx

the fact that winding road sells it makes me feel slightly better

JasonC SBB 08-20-2018 11:20 AM

Which brands of bucket seats have assorted velcro-in cushions to conform to your back?
I need lots of lumbar support.

sixshooter 08-20-2018 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1497361)
Which brands of bucket seats have assorted velcro-in cushions to conform to your back?
I need lots of lumbar support.

Kirkey. The nice thing about the aluminum seats is it is very easy to lift the cover and place a lumbar cushion wherever you desire. They don't move around. You may also add additional cushioning to the seat bottom in the same fashion.

These seats are far more comfortable than you might imagine just looking at them.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/kir-5517011

https://www.summitracing.com/itemgro...drag-race&ar=1

These are not full containment road racing seats but they will serve you well for a dual duty car. They are not as cumbersome or difficult to get in and out of as a full road race seat but still offer far better than stock containment and structure.

Dietcoke 08-20-2018 12:47 PM

Kirkey intermediates are probably the most comfortable alum. seat on the market. Tons of support.

JasonC SBB 08-20-2018 02:06 PM

Wow those are shockingly inexpensive.

The reason I'm so interested in reclineable seats is that my low back really likes to complain on long drives (spondilolysthesis). Changing the angle every so often helps.
It's not as bad now as before, thanks to regular, strict-form deadlifts and squats, but still :-p

So I guess, reclineable seats weak in rear enders?

DNMakinson 08-20-2018 09:21 PM

Anyone have thoughts on the Simpson hybrid HANS?
https://simpsonraceproducts.com/hybr...lt-compatible/

And would it add much neck protection if car has Air Bags.

By thoughts I mean relative to effectiveness, not cost / benefit perceptions

apexanimal 08-21-2018 08:05 PM

be aware with the aluminum seats you should really have a roll bar at minimum, solid seat mounts, and a back brace...

dasting 08-21-2018 08:32 PM

(edit - I'm a moron and didn't realize there was a second page of comments.)

Honestly, could be laceration too from pivoting metal bits coming apart and going inside your organs. Dunno.

How many people drive your car? A well positioned race seat is very comfortable.

JasonC SBB 08-21-2018 08:43 PM

Sliders with a bucket seat and 6-point harness and HANS is less safe than factory everything??

Dietcoke 08-22-2018 03:19 AM

HANS with a seat on sliders. Lolol. My brain

emilio700 08-22-2018 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1497674)
Sliders with a bucket seat and 6-point harness and HANS is less safe than factory everything??

Jason,

Andrew's post is the only correct answer. You asked, you got a clear answer that unfortunately conflicts with your budget or motivation level. Your problem, not ours.
Do yourself a favor and don't try to rationalize or reason a solution outside of that.

All OEM. Simpson Hybrid-S HNRS optional (3 pt compatible)

OR

full race car, I.E: 4 pt 1.75" DOM mounted at shock mount plate and bulkhead corner, 5 or 6 pt FIA harness (properly anchored), HNRS, fixed position FIA seat, no airbag, fire extinguisher, Snell 2015 full face helmet with visor down /and or eye protection, driving suit, shoes, gloves

The folks that have died in HPDE over the last 15 years have all, without exception, mixed OEM and partial and/or improperly installed race car driver safety equipment.


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