How to tell if suspension is bent
Just got back from the alignment shop...the bad news is it seems I have something is bent as my front passenger camber can't get higher than 1.4*. Oddly enough my caster is fine (he was able to put in 6* there). I can't think of how anything got bent really, visually the subframe and the control arms look fine. I don't see any new rust spots or bends/dents. Anyone have a better way of checking for such things? or should I just say ---- it and buy a new LCA?
The good news, if any, is that I replaced all the eccentrics in an attempt to get this fixed. |
Have you tried replacing the lower ball joint? That would be my first guess, otherwise pm me and I'll sell you a used lower control arm.
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hmm thats an idea...at 68k miles, does it seem reasonable that that is the culprit? My has only been tracked on street tires, and like I said, never hit a curb, and other than a few offs on track, I haven't really abused it.
I feel like if I am going to take ---- apart to replace, then I might as well do them all. Is it possible the UCA is damaged also? I have a track event on the 11th, so I am a bit short on time here. |
What's the ride height?
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5.25"
I can easily get 2.2* on the left side. so I doubt ride height is it. |
Gotcha. Like Nick said, start with the lower balljoint, then swap the LCA.
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Just out of curiosity, do you guys replace this stuff with used or new? I can see control arms being fine used (as long as they aren't bent also), but what about ball joints and the such?
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On my car, I would do a new balljoint and a used arm. The balljoint is $41 from Comp. NA01-34-550A
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Im posting here for results. Im having very similar issues with the car. I cant tell specifics yet, but this weekend we will be aligning the car and I will be able to get more details. Ever since I bought the car it has been understeer city. I know that part of the issue is ride height, therefore we raised the car. I believe it is at 5.25 now as well.
Regardless of that, this car has always been impossible to get a decent alignment on. Joe, tell me what comes out of your car asap. You may need the same stuff I need. :dunno: |
SO, I got the camber gauge and toe plates out among a few home depot tools and fucked with the alignment on the left side. I was about to get about 1.5* of camber and a total of maybe ~5.5* of caster. I checked the other side and it went up? Apparently I am at 2.5* camber on the right side and ~6* of caster. Is that normal? I adjusted the toe back to zero, so I am doubtful its stemming from that.
I am thinking it really might be the control arm. Andrew and Nick, have you guys experienced that the ball joint is usually what goes out? |
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Just incase you need upper CA ball joints only - if the CAs are not bent, miataroadster sells new upper joints by the pair - $150 (made by V8roadsters). Only other NEW way is Maz upper CAs at $200+ each :eek4:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1328274258 |
I am confused? I can buy a new upper CA from mazdaspeed dev. for $94 then $1.34+.68 for cotter pin and castle nut.
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Im also confused. I thought that the UCA and balljoint were one piece...
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Originally Posted by Gryff
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Im also confused. I thought that the UCA and balljoint were one piece...
Also, I had this issue a while back, new (used anyway) LCA fixed it for me. Visually, there was no difference in the arms, but the lower was tweaked in some way that was bad enough I couldnt get the alignment I was looking for. |
Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15
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They are. I think you have to do a fair bit of machine work for the V8r joints to work.
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Originally Posted by chpmnsws6
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Using a press for 10 minutes = machine work?
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Originally Posted by chpmnsws6
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Using a press for 10 minutes = machine work?
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Learn something new every day:
http://miataroadster.com/v8_roadster.../i-409013.aspx Front upper ball joints are critical to accurate steering. Until now, the only way to get replacements for worn-out ball joints was to buy entire new control arms from Mazda for over $300 per pair. V-8 Roadsters has finally solved this dilemma with their replacement ball joints. They are far higher quality than the factory ones as well as being adjustable, rebuildable, and lubricate-able. |
Originally Posted by EO2K
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Learn something new every day:
http://miataroadster.com/v8_roadster.../i-409013.aspx While these look bauce, I'd probably just call Mazda Dev for $94 new CA w/joint, especially if you think the CA may be bent. Perfect time to install polly bushings too. How long are these things lasting for the Spec/turbo/ax track guys? They go something like 100k+mi on the street, sometimes OEM is hard to beat |
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Rosenthal:
http://parts.arlingtonmazda.com/prod...52d250%29.html Mazdaspeed dev. you need to have an account, but here is a screen shot: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1328298302 |
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