how would you run trans cooler lines?
fill port is an option but the drain plug is low and I think a fitting could get knocked off. I see another plug of some sort but I saw a thread that said if you take such and such off the case needs to be split to reset something. I have no idea what this really means but it made me hesitant to mess with it.
someone suggested using the power steering pump for the trans cooler. that could be interesting option if the fluid is compatible |
You might have to tap the bell housing somewhere low. I would get a small electric pump. Using the PS would require a lot of extra hose.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TIL-40-524/ |
6-speed side-drain FTW!!!
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 886281)
6-speed side-drain FTW!!!
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LOL - I was just thinking: I remember my 5-speed had a bottom drain plug, but I'm pretty sure my 6-speed is a side drain. 6-speed solves yet another problem!!
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 886282)
6-speed = capitalist transmission
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Do you have to worry about transmission coolers being too efficient to the point that you need to put an inline thermostat in? If so, how do you run the electric pump if theres an inline thermostat?
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You wouldn't run a thermostat, you'd run a thermoswitch to a relay to operate the electric pump.
Oil too cold, circuit is open, pump isn't on Oil too hot, circuit is closed, pump activates |
Originally Posted by stuiephoto
(Post 886310)
Do you have to worry about transmission coolers being too efficient to the point that you need to put an inline thermostat in? If so, how do you run the electric pump if theres an inline thermostat?
If so, you would just need a simple thermostatic switch to turn an electric pump on and off. If temps are high, pump is on and circulating oil through cooler. If temps are low, pump is off and it is like you have no cooler at all. Edit: Fooger beat me. |
Originally Posted by fooger03
(Post 886313)
You wouldn't run a thermostat, you'd run a thermoswitch to operate the electric pump.
Oil too cold, circuit is open, pump isn't on Oil too hot, circuit is closed, pump activates |
Originally Posted by stuiephoto
(Post 886316)
AAh yes. There are 3 things in this world that are voodoo to me....manual transmissions.
Then I realized that the most likely scenario was that you probably didn't put the adjective "manual" there to suggest that those were the only types of transmissions you don't understand, but rather you simply felt it was the right word choice given the subject of discussion here on this thread, which made this post about your choice of the use of the adjective "manual" completely irrelevant, meaning that hitting the "submit" button a few pixels below my text, as I'm about to do here in a few brief seconds, might constitute a very light form of trolling, and you'll never get back the 20 seconds you wasted reading this post. :rofl: |
Manual transmissions are a little hard to visualize, but not particularly complex.
Automatic transmissions, on the other hand, are filled with unicorns and rainbows and cannot be understood by mere mortals. |
Originally Posted by Handy Man
(Post 886240)
Using the PS would require a lot of extra hose.
We talked about placement on my car. Because my fuel tank is moved we can mount it up above the diff and pull air through the inside of the car with a duct to the rear license plate area. |
the would not really need to be that long and the pump is already in place so though the lines would cost a bit, you only need 2 and can have them made pretty cheap. at this point I'm not trying to spend 200 bucks on a pump unless their is a good reason.
where would you tap the bell housing? I think it would need to be on the trans housing would would require removal. I'm going to check the drain and fill plugs, if they are side mounted this job should be pretty simple. do we have any reason to believe the trans fluid will cause a problem for the PS pump? I really have no idea. some cars require PS fluid, vag uses "special" mineral oil. so guess someone needs to just try it. so assuming this cooler works, I would need to find a new future home for a temp probe to feed a gauge. pointless to do all this work and not know how much it lowers the temp |
The more I think about it the more this makes sense.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TIL-40-524/?rtype=10 Constant speed pump and designed for the application. |
For a long time I have thought about using a power steering pump, but havent gotten around to it yet. My biggest question is, would a power steering pump have too much pressure? I'm not sure if they operate on a lot of pressure or not, I suppose a pulley change would change the psi.
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The pump shouldn't be pumping against any significant restriction, so it wont be able to generate much pressure.
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Well then when the car goes back in the air I will play with the idea some more
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I'd worry more about aeration of the fluid than anything else. Not sure how well a PS pump will pump the foamy mess that the fluid in the transmission ends up as.
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I think if you pull your source fairly low in the transmission it wont be foamy. I could very well be wrong though.
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