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graveshaker 07-31-2011 11:33 AM

I'm 6'2" 240lbs will I fit?
 
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Hello to all. I recently test drove a 91 all stock Miata and was very heart broken and sort of embarrassed fitting into the car. To my surprise the steering did not have tilt which would have lifted the steering wheel off my thighs. My plans for the Miata are autocross events and open track days for starters. A race seat was already one mod already planed. My question to the community is should I not invest in a Miata and move on or is there hope for a big guy? I currently race a 1977 Porsche 911 equipped with racing seat with sliders.

I do have this seat lying around, hoping I could use it in a Miata.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1312126393
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1312126393
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olderguy 07-31-2011 11:50 AM

If you mount it low enough, should work fine. Get a friends Miata, pull out the seat and just set yours in it all the way back to check it out. If it doesn't work, send me that seat, I am a little smaller than you and can put it to good use.;)

Joe Perez 07-31-2011 11:54 AM

I'm 6'1", and was about 215 lbs for a while, never really had a problem with the Miata. Of course, I've always had small cars, and am accustomed to sitting such that my knees are roughly level with the steering column...

You might do a bit of searching on the so-called foamectomy procedure, which is little more than taking the stock seat apart and removing some of the foam padding from it. You can thus adjust your seating position in the car to be slightly lower and further back, which some folks like.

As for your Kirkey seat, well, what are its dimensions? There's not a tone of room in the Miata, but a lot of folks put racing seats into them. Me, I've never sat in one that I found even remotely comfortable. Some of these kids with their tiny little racing seats make me feel like an elephant in a phone booth. :D

chicksdigmiatas 07-31-2011 11:58 AM

I am 6'4" and 215 right now. I think that if you put in an aftermarket steering wheel, you will get lots of leg room. It worked for me. I also removed the handle on the door you use to close it. I play the can you get your hand in the car before the door slams game. There is a solution for this on m.net, but I don't know what that is.

graveshaker 07-31-2011 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 755207)
If you mount it low enough, should work fine. Get a friends Miata, pull out the seat and just set yours in it all the way back to check it out. If it doesn't work, send me that seat, I am a little smaller than you and can put it to good use.;)

I don't know a single person with a Miata to do a seat swap test fit. I lurked the "seat" thread and really couldn't find a solid answer. It seems many large guys go through a lot of trial and error before finding the right set up. I'm hoping an after market smaller steering wheel with quick release would yield more room.
I know anything is possible with fab work and bottom less pockets but my resources are very limited.

curly 07-31-2011 12:05 PM

Keep in mind aftermarket steering wheels give you .4" of leg clearance, and there's a .25" plate you can remove between the steering column and dash bar you can remove to raise it even more. Coupled with a race seat bolted to the floor, removing the center console and the arm rest, and you can get some decent room.

Joe Perez 07-31-2011 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 755211)
I play the can you get your hand in the car before the door slams game. There is a solution for this on m.net, but I don't know what that is.

It's called the "not having the window rolled up" technique. This is a convertible. Convert it. :D




Originally Posted by graveshaker (Post 755212)
I don't know a single person with a Miata to do a seat swap test fit. I lurked the "seat" thread and really couldn't find a solid answer.

Like I said- measure the seat, give us the major dimensions, and we can measure the inside of our cars to give you a rough answer.

graveshaker 07-31-2011 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 755209)
I'm 6'1", and was about 215 lbs for a while, never really had a problem with the Miata. Of course, I've always had small cars, and am accustomed to sitting such that my knees are roughly level with the steering column...

You might do a bit of searching on the so-called foamectomy procedure, which is little more than taking the stock seat apart and removing some of the foam padding from it. You can thus adjust your seating position in the car to be slightly lower and further back, which some folks like.

As for your Kirkey seat, well, what are its dimensions? There's not a tone of room in the Miata, but a lot of folks put racing seats into them. Me, I've never sat in one that I found even remotely comfortable. Some of these kids with their tiny little racing seats make me feel like an elephant in a phone booth. :D

I will look into the foamectomy procedure, sounds like a logical idea. I'm sure in order to mount the Kirkey to the floor banging cutting and a little cursing are in order. It's good to see there are tall guys driving Miatas so hope is still alive!

Bond 07-31-2011 12:16 PM

I'm 6'2 190lbs, I fit with a foamectomy, stock seats, Grant wheel. Ideally I would have my aluminum kirkey bolted the floor with the stock humps cut out, but I'm lazy....

graveshaker 07-31-2011 12:19 PM

Here are the dimensions of my Kirkey to anyone willing to do some measurements.
http://www.kirkeyracing.com/related/...op-drawing.gif

Joe Perez 07-31-2011 12:19 PM

A colleague of mine named Doug was kind of a big guy. I honestly have no idea how much he weighed, but if I had to guess, I'd say maybe 350-400 lbs. About my height, too. Big dude.

Doug had two cars. One was a dually 4WD (6WD?) crew-cab Dodge truck, the other was a Fiero. It was slightly comical to watch Doug get into the Fiero, but he loved that car, so he made it work.

graveshaker 07-31-2011 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 755220)
A colleague of mine named Doug was kind of a big guy. I honestly have no idea how much he weighed, but if I had to guess, I'd say maybe 350-400 lbs. About my height, too. Big dude.

Doug had two cars. One was a dually 4WD (6WD?) crew-cab Dodge truck, the other was a Fiero. It was slightly comical to watch Doug get into the Fiero, but he loved that car, so he made it work.

That's funny but I'm physically fit so I'm more muscle than fat. I included a link above your last post to my dimensions.

gearhead_318 07-31-2011 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 755211)
I am 6'4" and 215 right now. I think that if you put in an aftermarket steering wheel, you will get lots of leg room. It worked for me. I also removed the handle on the door you use to close it. I play the can you get your hand in the car before the door slams game. There is a solution for this on m.net, but I don't know what that is.

Door straps. :cool:

Larimer 07-31-2011 02:19 PM

Honestly, you're going to have a hard time getting under the rollbar if you plan to track it, even with the seats mounted to the floor. I'm 6'1 nearly and I don't think I'd feel safe if I was any taller and my seats are on the floor. Maybe if you're more legs than torso you'll make it, but I'd just try and sit in somebody else's car before you cut into your floor (cut off the rear seat humps).

Noticed you're not too far from me, more than welcome to try it out in my car. I was just up around Flint today for the Warrior Dash.

spoolin2bars 07-31-2011 03:20 PM

i have the same seat as yours except made by ultrashield. same bolster design. i cut the left, side and bottom bolsters down a little to make ingress and egress (is that right?) a little easier. my seat is a 18" size and i bolted it to 2 steel straps that era bolted using the factory bolts. then the seat is bolted to the straps and the seatback is secured to the roll bar. i'm 6'1 265lbs. and fit great in there. getting in and out takes a special procedure, but not that bad. i don't even have a quick release str. wheel.

i see that your seat is a 17" should fit no problem, if anything you might have to beat the trans tunnel a little bit where the right rear corner of the seat contacts it.

also, unless you run with the top down, i doubt anyone will ever say anything if your helmet is near the limit. if you cut out the floor you will fit. 100% sure of it. i didn't do that and i just fit under the broomstick (rule). angle of the seat will help in that regard also.

vehicular 07-31-2011 03:31 PM

One of my buddies is about your size, and he fits pretty well with a small wheel and a big ole boy sized Ultrashield Spec Miata seat bolted to the floor all the way up against the rear bulkhead. He's big enough that his brother is 6' even, and has to cram a pillow in the seat to reach the pedals. I'm 5'7", and have no hope of reaching the pedals in it, lol.

chpmnsws6 07-31-2011 04:00 PM

At 6'0 and 240-260, I'm able to get into the car with a smaller quick release steering wheel, !center console, shortened/bent parking brake lever, and a set of C5 Vette seats wedged into it. For play days, I have a set of Cobra clubmans that fit great, but I don't think they are good for the track.

graveshaker 07-31-2011 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Larimer (Post 755247)
Honestly, you're going to have a hard time getting under the rollbar if you plan to track it, even with the seats mounted to the floor. I'm 6'1 nearly and I don't think I'd feel safe if I was any taller and my seats are on the floor. Maybe if you're more legs than torso you'll make it, but I'd just try and sit in somebody else's car before you cut into your floor (cut off the rear seat humps).

Noticed you're not too far from me, more than welcome to try it out in my car. I was just up around Flint today for the Warrior Dash.

That sounds great! I'd be more than willing to come down and test fit your set up. I'm usually free on the weekends. By the way, do you go to Waterford Hills? I try to take my 911 at least a couple times per month.

Larimer 07-31-2011 09:40 PM

I'm really wanting to, but I haven't got the car prepped properly yet. Still need to do some ducting, tune, a million other things, etc. Probably next year though. I'll be at Mid Ohio next weekend to watch some racing, but the weekend after I should be around. PM me if you're serious about coming down to check out the setup. Feel free to bring your seat/helmet/whatever to try it out.

graveshaker 07-31-2011 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Larimer (Post 755351)
I'm really wanting to, but I haven't got the car prepped properly yet. Still need to do some ducting, tune, a million other things, etc. Probably next year though. I'll be at Mid Ohio next weekend to watch some racing, but the weekend after I should be around. PM me if you're serious about coming down to check out the setup. Feel free to bring your seat/helmet/whatever to try it out.

Will do, I'll give you a 3 day heads up.

pusha 08-01-2011 12:42 AM

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I'm 6'1" and about 230 lbs. Because most of it is just dick weight, I have no trouble fitting in my 15" race seat:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1312173722

My cage relocated the steering column and with the seat bolted directly to the floor (factory humps cut out), I have the perfect line of sight through the windshield. So yes, you can fit in a Miata.

graveshaker 08-01-2011 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 755381)
I'm 6'1" and about 230 lbs. Because most of it is just dick weight, I have no trouble fitting in my 15" race seat:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1312173722

My cage relocated the steering column and with the seat bolted directly to the floor (factory humps cut out), I have the perfect line of sight through the windshield. So yes, you can fit in a Miata.

What did you use to cut the seat humps out? I have a Harbour Freight air cut of tool with disk. Will mounting seat to floor alone yield enough clearance or will I have to modify the steering column? I guess only trial and error will only tell.
I'll have to use my son to transport vehicle home until I can get to hacking.

sjmarcy 08-01-2011 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by graveshaker (Post 755212)
I don't know a single person with a Miata to do a seat swap test fit. I lurked the "seat" thread and really couldn't find a solid answer. It seems many large guys go through a lot of trial and error before finding the right set up. I'm hoping an after market smaller steering wheel with quick release would yield more room.
I know anything is possible with fab work and bottom less pockets but my resources are very limited.

D-Shape wheel too, besides smaller.

Buzz 08-01-2011 08:22 AM

I am 6'4" 260 and fit fine. I have Ultra Shield seat (similar to yours) bolted to the floor. I did pound down the floor and remove the seat rails though. You will also gain room by adding a steering wheel that is of a deep dish design and of course removable so you can get out. Let me know if you need photos or anything.

RavynX 08-01-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 755211)
I am 6'4" and 215 right now. I think that if you put in an aftermarket steering wheel, you will get lots of leg room. It worked for me. I also removed the handle on the door you use to close it. I play the can you get your hand in the car before the door slams game. There is a solution for this on m.net, but I don't know what that is.

That's a good idea on the door handle. You can implement something like the Porsche GT3 RS and add a cloth pull-handle to save room...

sjmarcy 08-01-2011 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 755419)
I am 6'4" 260 and fit fine. I have Ultra Shield seat (similar to yours) bolted to the floor. I did pound down the floor and remove the seat rails though. You will also gain room by adding a steering wheel that is of a deep dish design and of course removable so you can get out. Let me know if you need photos or anything.

Have you ever driven an Elise or Exige? ;-)

exST165 08-01-2011 10:15 PM

I'm going to be the contrarian here and say that being 6'2" isn't what matters, what matters is how much of that is torso. I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam and I'm pretty much pooched for headroom. Second photo is me sitting ON THE FLOOR with a helmet:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=422726

Short of cutting a hole in the floor and lowering the seat onto that (been there, done that, bought the t-shirt with a previous project and no desire to do it again) I think my Miata days are done before they started.

I would suggest going to a local Mazda dealer and taking a Miata / MX5 for a test drive. A racing bucket bolted to the floor will get you some more room but my experience is that your helmet will eat that up. So IMHO if you don't fit in a stock seat without a helmet you are going to have issues.

But take my comments with a grain of salt, I'm still p!ssed off that this isn't working out for me.

Thomas

Asx 08-01-2011 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by vehicular (Post 755264)
One of my buddies is about your size, and he fits pretty well with a small wheel and a big ole boy sized Ultrashield Spec Miata seat bolted to the floor all the way up against the rear bulkhead. He's big enough that his brother is 6' even, and has to cram a pillow in the seat to reach the pedals. I'm 5'7", and have no hope of reaching the pedals in it, lol.

stock steering wheel.

I consulted the most ---- tech inspector in the southeast and decided to cut the seat bottom out around the stock humps and use those for rear mounting. There are pictures. In the seat fitment thread on roadsterdrift

mousee 08-02-2011 01:01 AM

yet another 6'1" 230#er. although i'm almost to lean mass again so maybe 220# now. Stock interior, stock seat and have plenty of room.

yank 08-02-2011 01:07 AM

6' 3" on stock seats or Corbeau fx1 pro. its tight but you'll love the car so much it wont matter.

pusha 08-03-2011 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by graveshaker (Post 755404)
What did you use to cut the seat humps out? I have a Harbour Freight air cut of tool with disk. Will mounting seat to floor alone yield enough clearance or will I have to modify the steering column? I guess only trial and error will only tell.
I'll have to use my son to transport vehicle home until I can get to hacking.

A pneumatic cutting wheel should work fine. It's pretty straightforward. My car's steering column has been relocated but I'm going to be doing so more adjustment when I have time.

Here are some (not very good) pics:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1312350929

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1312350929

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1312350929

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1312350929

Faeflora 08-03-2011 02:02 AM

Since when did you actually own a miata?

graveshaker 08-03-2011 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 756158)
Since when did you actually own a miata?

Never owned a Miata but hope that will change in the near future. I like to learn all I can before purchasing a car as unique as a Miata. I did the same research before buying my Porsche 911 and 944.

shuiend 08-03-2011 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by graveshaker (Post 756397)
Never owned a Miata but hope that will change in the near future. I like to learn all I can before purchasing a car as unique as a Miata. I did the same research before buying my Porsche 911 and 944.

FaeFlora was asking Pusha not you.

pusha 08-03-2011 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 756158)
Since when did you actually own a miata?

November 2009

stinkycheezmonky 08-06-2011 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 755215)
and there's a .25" plate you can remove between the steering column and dash bar you can remove to raise it even more.

Does the dash have to be removed to get at this?


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