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The block is where the mass is. If we're just talking about the clearance with the hood subject, there's at least a half dozen ways to tackle that... basically it's not really an issue when custom fabrication is your all day every day.
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I know Moti can fab with the best of them and I will be very interested to see how he tackles the induction issue.
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Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1418384)
Thank you Moti for letting me come up and get a sneak peek at the evil plans for world domination on Friday. Great to hang out for a bit and shoot around ideas.
There's a lot of genius in this, and a little bit of crazy. Which is perfect. Doing what everyone else is doing is the fastest way to guarantee yourself 2nd place, not to mention that just isn't what Blackbird Fabworx is about anyways. This is way more than a bid for media exposure, this should be a wicked recipe for the car. The dry sump setup from the factory is one feature that should not be underestimated. Sure you can custom dry sump just about any engine, but usually you can't drop the engine much at all because the bell housing, flywheel, etc. etc. are all still there limiting ground clearance. Factory dry sump means everything else was designed with that lower clearance in mind. The 360 engine is 18.5" tall from top of valve cover to bottom of pan. For perspective, a BP motor is about 23.5" tall. That is a huge deal for center of mass, and just not something you can accomplish without finding a motor that came that way right off the engineer's CAD software at the factory. Wish you could be there Saturday, it involved a lot of good food and beer :beer: The dry sump part is indeed the one that is often overlooked, the engine weight is going to be placed very low. Additionally, since the rest of the setup is also rather small I expect this swap to do wonders in terms of vehicle dynamics. The Samsonas gearbox is TINY! Less than 17" length and 10" diameter (minus bellhousing), weighs ~80 Lbs and rated for #allofthepower, which means long service intervals. I'm pretty much DYING to drive with the new drivetrain and see what this feels like. BTW, everyone seems to be way more concerned about the intake height than I am, haha! Even if I leave everything alone exactly as it is (at least to start with), it barely sticks a couple inches above the hood line, so a Lexan bubble on top would easily solve this. For comparison purposes, the front hoop in Creampuff's cage sticks another 1.5" above the Ferrari engine, but that has never prevented me from driving the car... https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...695adcd7ae.jpg |
Whoever decided to change the thread title on my thread without even the courtesy of asking could have at least spelled Blackbird Fabworx right... :dunno:
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Very cool. Intake solution will be fun to watch.
Are those dual throttle bodies on the plenums? Or are there individual throttle bodies for each runner? Any trick shifter stuff planned with the seq? Paddle shift, air shift, etc. Stock rear end? Or something else. What sort of ratios come in the trans. |
I can't wait to see the headers.
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Lame thread title. As much as I love and support this forum I do not like the moderators changing vendors thread titles without their knowledge.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1418538)
Are those dual throttle bodies on the plenums? Or are there individual throttle bodies for each runner?
There's an additional crossover between the upper plenums.
Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1418538)
Any trick shifter stuff planned with the seq? Paddle shift, air shift, etc.
Paddle shifters are available, but more $$ than I want to drop into it right now (~$5K) and I can always upgrade in the future if I wanted.
Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1418538)
Stock rear end? Or something else. What sort of ratios come in the trans.
There are no hard launches in time attack and I have the factory rear end in pretty much every ratio sitting on the shelf in the shop so it'll be very easy to change ratios to different tracks, should I decide to do so. I'm treating this as a "if it's not broken don't fix it", and if I start breaking them I'll come up with a different solution. Until then, this is an easy button that costs $0.00, it's light and needs zero screwing around with. |
:bigtu:
Looking forward to seeing the progress. Are you going to keep us updated as it goes? Or more of a big reveal like Morpheus v1. |
There will be some updates as we go along, no promises on how many, frequency, at what stages etc...
Re: thread title, what E said. |
Cool. I would love to see more pictures of the actual fabrication process. Even if they are after the fact. I like seeing good finished products, but the actual steps behind them are what really interest me. (Fender vent build, flat bottom, etc)
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I am so excited to see the results of this!
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1418554)
Cool. I would love to see more pictures of the actual fabrication process. Even if they are after the fact. I like seeing good finished products, but the actual steps behind them are what really interest me. (Fender vent build, flat bottom, etc)
Everyone likes the process shots, and in this project there should plenty of things that I can show without giving away trade secrets, but not everything. |
Coolest miata swap ever!
Let us know the ETA on swap kits for the general public :rofl: /s |
Projected date of the Ferrari swap kit release - never :rofl:
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Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 1418381)
I vote #1. Only thing cooler would be a Cosworth DFX or Hayabusa V8
@Blackbird Thank you for dreaming awesome dreams and making them a reality that i can drool over! |
The DFV is actually pretty close to the power figures of the 360 Modena engine, at least in its' original state.
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Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 1418543)
Lame thread title. As much as I love and support this forum I do not like the moderators changing vendors thread titles without their knowledge.
Not sure if the admins know this, but once the title is changed I no longer get notifications to that thread. Not ideal...Especially for a vendor!
Originally Posted by Blackbird
(Post 1417844)
Not happening, actually.
We have 3 packaging options for the intake, neither of which uses the cowl area. Either way that is one sick combination! Ferrari blips...there is nothing like it! Is that the 400hp Mondetta engine? If so there is a 11.2 piston (425hp) for that motor if you can get a dealer to give it to you. The throttle response is much better yet ...and it sounds even better! Can't wait to hear it run! |
Originally Posted by nbfather
(Post 1418700)
Not sure if the admins know this, but once the title is changed I no longer get notifications to that thread.
Not ideal...Especially for a vendor! |
Originally Posted by nbfather
(Post 1418700)
Is the cowl area is a bad idea, or is it too much for too little, and impossible for the stock booster location?
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