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Is this measured at comp weight with you/fuel in the car?
Err, nope. Don't have any weight available to load up my seat. This is just with fuel/ballast. The numbers also seem a bit lower than I remember them being following last alignment/corner blaance. Need to install my poly bushings and banish OEM rubber to the trash bin.
Err, nope. Don't have any weight available to load up my seat. This is just with fuel/ballast. The numbers also seem a bit lower than I remember them being following last alignment/corner blaance. Need to install my poly bushings and banish OEM rubber to the trash bin.
surprised you remember anything the way you drink on race weekends #vomlordapproves
Missed the win by less than 2 tenths, dang. First time at Thunderhill and I'm already in love. NASA Texas can keep COTA, ain't no 130whp miata got time for that.
My fast lap during the Sunday morning Money Session was about 3 hundredths slower than this and SHOULD have been the lap to win it. Had an optimal of ~2:05.2 and threw most of it away in T14 being too conservative. The next lap after that was green, but both myself and the guy that ended up winning TT6 caught cooldown traffic. So who knows, I certainly had an opporuntiy to go faster, but he might have also been green. This lap (2nd session) was the optimal for the session, which shows how much slower the track already was. It took some heroics just to barely out pace the money session lap.
Super slow TT6 car with rusty and washed up driver at Gingerman:
3rd Sat/2nd Sun. Session two Sunday I reset the track record(that was set Saturday), but so did the eventual winner; Chris A.
This car is super simple.
73k mile 2001 base
Xida Gen 2 900/500
RB 1.125" front bar
SPM endlinks
OEM rear bar
OEM drivetrain, 100% stock from intake to muffler(4.3 torsen)
Hawk DTC60 w.OEM lines
It was 2480 the first time across the scales. By session two Sunday I had it down to 2411 with a partial interior gut and fuel burn.
Future plans include a header(just picked up a used RB) and exhaust, bucket seat, MSM rear bar, and some 9" wheels if it makes enough power to stay over 2400lbs. It will probably end up down around 4" front pinch to get enough camber. I'd like to get it to ~138 peak whp, -4* front camber and 2450lbs so that it replicates Sonny's car "Miller".
What's different about Gingerman since you set a 1:45:x a few years ago in PTE?
All car prep and driver?
90% car prep. Heavy, missing about 20 whp, missing a degree and a half of front camber, rubber bushings.
10% me not remembering how to drive T5/6 and 10b until session 2 day 2.
I started wrenching on this car the monday before the event. It will be a steady progression over the next two events and should be taking a win from a Chris soon.
After all our doom and gloom, ST6 has double the entries as ST5 in Great Lakes.
TT6 and TT5 are closer, but TT6 has had more cars almost every weekend.
7) The Toyo RR will be added to the line: "Tires with a UTQG Treadwear rating 100 or greater +0.5" So, this one would be: "Tires with a UTQG Treadwear rating 100 or greater or Toyo RR +0.5"
Me gusta.
I was already running unoptimized with 205 Hohos on 257mm template (2438lbs comp weight), but already planning on giving RR's a go with this change. Now that I have a nice comfy daily (97 SC400, revvy 4l v8 mmm yissss) I'm planning to get the miata caged and move towards w2w. Since I'm in Sac now, might as well prep for NASA champs in Utah. Thinking the following for my car.
2452/134avg (from 2438/129) e85 tune makes 142whp peak, so should be 134avg I'd think.
245 RR on 15x9.5 or 225/9 depending on template (I'm guessing 245 clears 257mm, but need to reserach that first)
-0.7 a-arm -0.3 weight -0.2 elbj's (apparently drilling a-arms even for zerks/locating pins counts as -0.5 a-arm mod) +0.4 BTM aero +0.5 100tw (RR)
-0.2 elbj's (apparently drilling a-arms even for zerks/locating pins counts as -0.5 a-arm mod)
Was this verified by Greg?
4) Control arms, camber arms/links, toe arms/links may be modified, replaced, or removed, and a Modification Factor will be assessed. Adjustable plates, shims, and eccentric bolts and bushings for camber/caster adjustment are not assessed a Modification Factor.
If so, then it seems the bushings are free, but then you need to find some creative way to lock them without modifying the arm. Also this seems dumb as hell if grease fittings are a penalty. Maybe just not enforced?
4) Control arms, camber arms/links, toe arms/links may be modified, replaced, or removed, and a Modification Factor will be assessed. Adjustable plates, shims, and eccentric bolts and bushings for camber/caster adjustment are not assessed a Modification Factor.
If so, then it seems the bushings are free, but then you need to find some creative way to lock them without modifying the arm. Also this seems dumb as hell if grease fittings are a penalty. Maybe just not enforced?
Sure, the bushing itself is free, but apparenlty Greg responded to the exact quesiton (drilling for locating pin) and said it would incur the .5 mod for modifying a-arm vs .2 for ELBJ. I've since left the group so can't get a screenshot/link, but after the NASA Champs SM fiasco I certainly wouldn't put it past 'em.
Yeah I saw that as well and am about to scrap any plans I had to be able to run in ST5. Between hits for double A-arm, brakes, and now modified control arms, it's off to ST4 I go.
Yeah I saw that as well and am about to scrap any plans I had to be able to run in ST5. Between hits for double A-arm, brakes, and now modified control arms, it's off to ST4 I go.
I've had the same thoughts. I'm no where near ready for a k24z3 swap, aero, etc, but NorCal ST4 is insane, no reason to not just leap frog from ST6 to 4 when the time comes. For now though, just need to get the car caged/log booked and driver licensed.
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