Originally Posted by Leveq (Post 1452262)

I don't know where those 1000+/500 comparisons are coming from.

Originally Posted by Dalardan (Post 1452698)

I'm wondering, though, if one can run 800/500 on non-adjustable revalved shocks.

Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1452303)

If you're under steering all over the place with 600/400 you're either driving way too deep and making the car understeer with your driving (needs moar drive mod) or you're just all over the front bump stops so your actual spring rate in the front is 2000.

Originally Posted by FatKao (Post 1452627)

Years of experience, track records and national championships.

Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1452751)

You're right reading is hard, you were trying to say because you were on street/DOT tires that the 1000/500 comparison was invalid...... It's not, that is what the fast guys are running and you continue to ignore that fact.

Originally Posted by Leveq (Post 1452754)

....and basic aero.

Is the 800-500 setup now past its fame ? Getting hard to follow :)

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1452882)

On a 245/40 RivalS-shod track car with no aero, I would start at 1000/500, yes. It would work at 800/500 as well, but it will go faster with 1000/500. It would be an undriveable mess at 600/400.
It is simply the progression of development on the chassis as tire technology improves. As tire grip increases, so must front roll stiffness.

Originally Posted by Leveq (Post 1452906)

Indeed. Need some power to get those 245s working tho. Ill keep my 205s for now lol... Either way I never put in question what rates work best, just what is deemed "undriveable" depending on what kind of build we're talking about.

Originally Posted by themonkeyman (Post 1453249)

A fair amount of people running 245s with 1000/500 are pushing stockish power. Cornering grip has nothing to do with engine power.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1452260)

You cannot use F/R rate ratio to do anything except make yourself look bad, dude. 700/400 and 1100/500 have vastly different ratios but they both work for different reasons. The suspension is different front to rear and the rates reflect that.



We're going to go in circles until you stop posting bad info in the Race Prep section here. With 600/450 and Koni Yellows, no offense, you simply can't comprehend how bad your setup is compared to the average spring/shock package discussed in this section. You don't have the frame of reference to understand the shortcomings in your setup and how to address them.

It's not a knock against you, I'm sure you mean well, but it would be like me walking into a kitchen with professional chefs and telling them how much salt to use. They're going to be polite the first few times, but if I keep doing it they're eventually going to tell me to fuck off, and they probably should.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1452260)

You cannot use F/R rate ratio to do anything except make yourself look bad, dude. 700/400 and 1100/500 have vastly different ratios but they both work for different reasons. The suspension is different front to rear and the rates reflect that.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1452260)

We're going to go in circles until you stop posting bad info in the Race Prep section here. With 600/450 and Koni Yellows, no offense, you simply can't comprehend how bad your setup is compared to the average spring/shock package discussed in this section. You don't have the frame of reference to understand the shortcomings in your setup and how to address them.

It's not a knock against you, I'm sure you mean well, but it would be like me walking into a kitchen with professional chefs and telling them how much salt to use. They're going to be polite the first few times, but if I keep doing it they're eventually going to tell me to fuck off, and they probably should.