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z31maniac 12-19-2013 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1084454)
My rule of thumb: If you don't have to build a motor to have power you're happy with, then don't.

It's not necessarily that I'm trying to make big power, I just want it to be reliable.


miata2fast, sorry I ignored your budget question. Currently speaking with my buddy who would build it to get a rough idea of machining/balancing/assembly costs.

Maybe stating my end goal is better:
~155whp
Stable on 91 octane (no det, etc)
Reliable for at least 100 HPDE/TT hours before a significant loss in performance.

So the best mix of parts to get there, without going overboard.

concealer404 12-19-2013 04:43 PM

Sorry, i was a bit cryptic there.

The most reliable (in my opinion of course) will be the build that has that most amount of OEM parts.

I'd run a stock VVT motor with maybe a BE oil pump, whatever pimpy damper everyone has a hard on for these days, mild port work in the head, nice manifolds, and a good tune. Shave the head if you want to get crazy, but don't know if i'd bother if you're limited by 91 octane.

z31maniac 12-19-2013 04:54 PM

No rods? I thought I've read they don't like repeated trips north of 7k?

concealer404 12-19-2013 05:20 PM

If you need it for peace of mind, go for it. I'm dumb and i'd try it until it didn't work.

FatKao 12-22-2013 02:15 PM

155whp is doable with a sealed VVT motor, EUDM intake, generic crossover w/cone filter tube intake, full exhaust and aftermarket ECU.

Without the EUDM intake and with 0 time spent on spark tuning I was at 143WHP with that setup.


e: Just remembered you can only get 91 octane. Not sure if that combo will get you all the way there on crap gas.

z31maniac 12-23-2013 08:04 AM

I may just go E85. There are a few stations around that have it, and since the car will become track-only next year that is probably the easiest way to get some more power out of a basically stock VVT engine.


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