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Morello 07-15-2018 07:46 PM

Poly diff mounts?
 
Hey all

I was all set to install my poly diff mounts today and the guy who was helping me press them in thought it'd be a bad idea... he mentioned hitting curbs and such with poly diff mounts can break the diff housing? Has anyone heard of or experienced this? I'm not opposed to the mazdaspeed rubber ones, but I already have the energy poly bushings...

Thanks

gooflophaze 07-15-2018 09:24 PM

Hitting a curb breaks the diff mounts, poly or no. There a weak spot on the diff housing to break away in an accident.

The biggest problem with poly diff is gear whine increases in the cockpit, along with typical nvh.

Gee Emm 07-16-2018 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by gooflophaze (Post 1491560)
Hitting a curb breaks the diff mounts, poly or no.

Any data to go with statement?

M2Ken 07-16-2018 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Gee Emm (Post 1491589)
Any data to go with statement?

Look at the notch on the diff mounting arm...

matrussell122 07-16-2018 09:32 AM

Im running delrin diff bushings and been fine. Many others here are running poly or delrin without issues as well. Dont worry about it and put in the poly.

dleavitt 07-16-2018 11:08 AM

I run delrin, no issues.

I haven't heard of anybody having issues breaking a diff mount just running over curbing.

Morello 07-16-2018 12:07 PM

I think the fear is more hopping curbs (think turn 3 at Road Atlanta) or riding really tough curbs (turn 10 road Atlanta) but I wanted to be sure I wasn't crazy for thinking they'd be fine.

concealer404 07-16-2018 01:17 PM

I think the guy who was helping you press them in doesn't know much about cars.

flier129 07-16-2018 01:55 PM

Like we discussed yesterday, I've had ES poly in my diff for ~7 years. Along with many RA T3 curb jumpings, diff has not broken yet. You good fam :party:

concealer404 07-16-2018 01:57 PM

Marcus jumped my car with delrin diff bushings. I don't think the diff broke, but i haven't looked. On the other hand that was 2 years ago and i imagine i would have noticed something.

gooflophaze 07-16-2018 03:12 PM

Sorry - I was imagining a street curb. But the statement stands - if it's a strong enough jolt to break a mount, it won't matter if it's poly or rubber.

matrussell122 07-16-2018 03:35 PM

Dont hit curbs

concealer404 07-16-2018 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1491688)
Dont hit curbs

Do you even drift, bro?

Morello 07-17-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1491674)
Marcus jumped my car with delrin diff bushings. I don't think the diff broke, but i haven't looked. On the other hand that was 2 years ago and i imagine i would have noticed something.

You willingly let Marcus drive your car? Lol

So, poly diff bushings it is. Thanks all.

Your Drunkle 07-18-2018 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1491688)
Dont hit curbs

Always hit curbs (on the race track)

Gee Emm 07-18-2018 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by M2Ken (Post 1491603)
Look at the notch on the diff mounting arm...

So, no data.

I know about the notch. I raced for years with poly diff bushes, using the kerbs aggressively - no broken diff. The only broken diff I know about first hand happened when a car got rear-ended and the diff was hit by the other car.

k24madness 07-18-2018 08:25 PM

Someone explain to me how hitting a curb is going to snap the carrier housing? That is not a moving part of the suspension.

I can see having crappy OEM engine mounts that allow the weight of the engine/trans to load the diff carrier when fitted with Poly/Delrin. Not a good situation indeed.

FWIW I ride curbs all the time with Delrin diff mounts. Never had an issue. Then again I run BFW drop mounts. Prior to that I was on AWR mounts.

Savington 07-19-2018 04:40 PM

I hit a kerb and broke the diff carrier once.

Physically hit the kerb.

As in, I dropped a wheel and physically struck the bottom of the diff, with a kerb, with the full weight of the car, plus any additional force from inertia.

Any kerb that can be hit hard enough with the tires to damage the diff carrier is going to fuck up so many other things first that the diff carrier will be an afterthought in your repair plans.

Morello 07-25-2018 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1492231)
Any kerb that can be hit hard enough with the tires to damage the diff carrier is going to fuck up so many other things first that the diff carrier will be an afterthought in your repair plans.

My thoughts exactly...

sharkythesharkdogg 07-26-2018 08:46 AM

Most of the broken diff carriers we've seen come from bump drafting that became something closer to ram drafting.


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