Racepak, who's running one?
 

Just looking around and my car's finishing up and I'll be running a racepak to take place of a lot of gauges. Only gauges I'll have are boost, A/F, and one more I haven't decided on. Anyone with stories and/or opinions is much appreciated.

Black car has one. I have no other gauges, everything is set on warnings (oil pres/temp, clt, iat, overboost, lean). I love the thing, it lets me actually focus on driving and keeps watch over the car for me. I pull all the data from the AEM EMS.

Sav, which dash do you have?

We have a G2X on the test bench. Have not put it in a car yet, but I'm impressed. It's more datalogger and supplemental display than full on dash replacement. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on a IQ3.

We're a dealer and have them in most of our cars. Our current enduro car has a G2X with auxiliary fuel gauge. The prime enduro car (still being built) will be set up with an IQ3 including fuel level among other things.

Love the predictive function and lap counter in endurance racing.

I have a UDXRP and love it. So pimp and mine is even the old one. My friends BMW GT car has a IQ3 and it's even more pimp.

Why would you have boost, A/F and more?

My dash displays oil temp/water temp/ oil press/ boost and in place of boost you can run WB02 if you want. My car is rotrex'd so I will be pulling the boost vnet and replacing it with a WB02.

Ill have the wb02, boost and somethimg else just because...its nice the have dial guages sometime and illne running aem ems 2

The whole point of a dash is to eliminate and simplify. I don't see the need for more gauges

To be honest, I have a radio mount that has a place for 3 guages so I figured i'd fill it up.

What did you guys do with the stock speedo and tach?

I don't have one. I have a Spec Miata blanking plate which was cut out for the Racepak.

Yea, I figured I'd get a piece of carbon fiber to cutout and just place over the stock guages.

I've got an IQ3.

The IQ3 has a really awesome intelligent warning system - there's really no need to have extra gauges, ESPECIALLY down by the radio where you'll never look at them. I figured I would keep my wideband, but after getting the dash set up and programming everything in, I ended up ditching that gauge too. I've got boost and AFR fed in through the AEM, and I have a warning set up for each. The LEAN warning only comes on if AFR is over 12:1, and TPS is above 80%, and then only if those two things are true for more than 1 second (to prevent false warnings when snapping the throttle open).

For excessive awesome, you feed the AEM a VSS signal via the stock NB speed sensor, then route the VSS signal to the Racepak, then set the Racepak up to calculate wheelspin based on GPS speed vs. VSS speed. I haven't done this yet, but the NB sensor is in the tranny waiting for me.

That's just the channel monitoring/warnings awesomeness - it's also got 10hz GPS, GPS-based lap timing (no more beacons!), predictive lap timing, 3-axis accelerometer, triggers for external warnings, external buttons so you aren't reaching through the steering wheel to futz with stuff, fully programmable shift lights (programmable PER GEAR, so you can set the lights up to come on a bit earlier in lower gears to keep yourself out of the rev limiter), all the data dumps to a microSD card that plugs into the front of the dash, the list goes on and on. It's hard to bite the bullet, but as a diagnostic and data-collecting tool, it's amazing. There are very few products that I've purchased and been genuinely and fully impressed with, but the Racepak has definitely been one of them. My one gripe is that the software has a steep learning curve, but it's not impossible.

The Racepak V-Net sensor stuff is really pricey, but the availability of their USM boxes to take existing sensors makes it great. I'm setting an IQ3 up on our rental next week and alongside the AEM V-Net interface (which pulls virtually everything - boost, RPM, TPS, CLT, IAT, volts, 4 EGT channels, two WBO2 channels, VSS, and 3 custom AEM 5v inputs) I'm going to set up a USM box to handle the fuel gauge. I'll also add oil temp and oil pressure to the slew of stuff the AEM looks at, and I've got the option of feeding those 5v signals into the AEM or directly into the USM box.

Racepak IQ3 @ Trackspeed Engineering

My dash can do half that stuff (not all) but I still have to figure it out. Not too tech savy, and the computer program is a bit confutzing.

G2X here...I'll let you know what I think when it arrives.

Damnit, more stuff I want. Andrew, hook me up:makeout:

Interesting, I didn't know that the IQ3 was also a datalogger and accelerometer.

So why would one spend more on the G2X package? Looks like the IQ3 does more, in a smaller footprint.

The G2X Pro has a ton of channels and is probably targeted at serious pro teams. The normal G2X is around $700, which is a lot less expensive than the IQ3. The G2X will do RPM, speed, and all of the GPS/datalogging functions of the IQ3, with a less intricate dash.

...and don't forget that you have to spend another $500 on sensors and bullshit to get the IQ3 to do anything in the car.

Can someone please send me a sample datafile so I can start playing with this bitch?

Not if you have an ECU that supports CAN BUS.

Right, but this is true of pretty much any DA system (DA = data acquisition). The Racepak is arguably the best of them all, since you can use the cheap USM boxes and GM 5-volt sensors.

BTW, for street guys who don't need the GPS function and are only looking for the dash, Racepak does offer a dash-only IQ3 "Display Dash" setup without the GPS and accelerometers. $625 on our website right now. The only downside is that you'll have to get a VSS signal into the dash, or else you won't have a speedometer (the IQ3 Logger Dash uses the GPS to calculate speed). Other than that, you get all of the same bitchin' warning functions, shift lights, etc.

Is there an easy way to get a VSS to the dash that it understands? I am so tempted to blow money on this.

Ive been trying for a while. Still working on it. When I figure it out I will let you know I have a new way I'm going to test this week.

If I buy the 'display only' dash, can I use it as a speedo/tach/coolant/O2/oil/boost gauge & warnings etc without the EFI Interface Module? My ECU (Adaptronic E420D Basic) isn't on the list.

I've been looking at adding oil pressure/temp, coolant temp and O2 conventional gauges anyway, but there's no way I could easily keep an eye on all that stuff.

I'm guessing I might need one or two of these?
http://www.racepak.com/Components/USM.php

Two USM's. 4 inputs per unit.
Tach - dash has built in pick up
1. coolant temp
2. WBO2
3. Manifold pressure
4. Speedo
5. Oil pressure or temp

Speedo is the tricky one. NA is spinning cable which gets converted to electronical frequency signal in circuitry of dash. Use the speed drive from an NB (Hall Effect) and you'll generate a square wave signal. The USM can be programmed to with a frequency scale for speed.

I believe some (or most?) of the NA dash clusters have a square wave speedo output that can be accessed on the back of the cluster. I seem to recall it being there for cruise control. Probably worth a look.

Hopefully mine does but I dont think it had cruise control and it's an 89......I'll post up my solution once my racepak is in.

Be careful using the tach signal going to the stock instrument cluster. The iq3 doesn't want the tach signal coming directly from the coils.

Yup. We take it from the diagnostic box on the cars that have ECU's we can't pick up from.

Does anyone know if the GPS Racepak can log miliage without a speedo sensor?

On my G2X I can go into setup-2 and calibrate wheel speed off any sensor type you want, the same way we specify the # of crank teeth for RPM.

I love how I revive this thread and you answer a question from 4 months ago...:Thefinger:

It went unanswered, dumbfuck son of bitch bastard. Why don't you go back to wasting bandwidth on secret 1500hp Neons with a super-secret T3 and I'll go back to enriching forum content with my diverse genetics, you can go back to discussing your genetic homogenity.

lol...

Trey: thanks.
Bart: go suck some dick.

Bring it to me baby:drool:

Pretty sure the IQ3 Logger has an odometer, yeah.

Secks :makeout:

Mods

Can we correct the spelling of the thread title to Racepak so folks can find it in searches easier?

I thought we were talking about the "Thug Life" edition. Oh well.

Sorry to bump this old thread.

Can anyone please post pictures of their G2X unit and display mounted in their miata?

Thanks,
-Raj

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