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240_to_miata 04-17-2012 11:00 PM

Yeah I think so. EMRA is an actual timed event tho and they give you some classroom time. Not sure about SCDA. I have never actually been on the track. I want to do 1 day with EMRA and 1 SCDA this summer. I wouldnt mind doing a CARTCT event either just cause I know most of the group from autox.

psreynol 04-18-2012 01:10 AM

praying wont get the car finished but I hope the build goes well all the same

vtjballeng 04-18-2012 01:19 AM

Smooth every driver input. Run a gear higher while learning. Watch for paint and oil patches. The transients when it just begins to rain or is dring out are hardest to manage.

Thought I had some crazy problems in a chump car race until I learned Oil was being dumped on the track and turned the event into an ice racing competition.

240_to_miata 04-18-2012 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 866121)
praying wont get the car finished but I hope the build goes well all the same

LOL WIN. trust me... i did not mean praying in a religious sense. :bowrofl:

cucamelsmd15 04-18-2012 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 865398)

If it's going to be wet for a while, unhook the swaybars.

Came in here to say this, but you only want the rear bar unhooked. Soften compression/rebound if you can. Lower the tire pressures.

The biggest piece of advice I have that I havent seen mentioned? Stay the HELL off the gators.

Edit:

Originally Posted by GeneSplicer (Post 865574)
I use full thread RA1s - they work, but suck when compared to a REAL wet race tire.

Im going to have to disagree here. The difference between the Hoo Hoo H20 wets and full depth RA1s was pretty small for like cars at Charge of the Headlight Brigade in October. The RA1 does an excellent job at evacuating water and maintaining grip. The only place the H20 excels over the RA1 is in a torrential downpour.

stinkycheezmonky 04-18-2012 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15 (Post 866183)
The biggest piece of advice I have that I havent seen mentioned? Stay the HELL off the gators.

This. Seriously. One of the most important differences between dry and wet.

On tires, slicks CAN work in a downpour. One of my favorite days ever was on Shenandoah with R6s. Rolled the ---- out of everyone in some crazy never-ending slide :) Smoothness and throttle modulation were key. That would have been way more difficult in a more powerful car, admittedly.

psreynol 04-19-2012 01:38 AM

if you have the means I highly recommend picking up a set of rains. I don't but have friends who have em and I wanna punch em in the face when it rains hehe JK.

thegrapist 04-19-2012 09:38 PM

Thanks for all the input, all of it has been duly noted.

So... it didn't rain today. We did however get ZERO track time (we got to run an automatic rx-8 on a wet skid pad, but it was as you'd assume: totally gay). Yes. Zero track time. It appears that there were some "typos" on the invites and e-mails. On a completely unrelated note there were about 700 angry people at lime rock today.

I'll try my chances doing an SCDA at njmp this summer. Hopefully, I'll be able to use some of these techniques.

240_to_miata 04-19-2012 09:49 PM

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My friends said they had a decent time... but they arent exactly track rats.

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(FYI They did get in a MANUAL RX8 on the skidpad)

They did:
- Ride along drift session in the ISF
- Skidpad in manual RX8
- Autox in the mazda 3
- hot lap ride along in the miata.

thegrapist 04-19-2012 10:00 PM

When was the first picture taken? I'm pretty sure I'm waiting in line if it was from noon to one.

The is-f was crap. The 911 had bald tires, was understeering like a pig, and was getting it's ---- pushed in by the ms3 and NC. The lotus evora "broke". The guy who drove the cup car drove like a complete girl and kept lifting on the front straight and driving it nowhere to its limit. But my friend that works for i-racing was there so we got to pretend to race on lime rock, in lime rock. That was the highlight of my day.

We literally waited an hour and a half for the freaking rx-8's and they wouldn't let us wait for a 6 speed. Even better: some dick head decided to hose out the porto potties right next to the line for the skidpad. A million people were covered in poo/pee-water. Today was about as enjoyable as passing a kidney stone. If you have the choice to do this next year, do not unless you have absolutely nothing better to do.

psreynol 04-19-2012 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by wannafbody (Post 866039)
I did an open track day in he rain last year-by midday everyone else headed home and myself and another Miata had the whole track to ourselves.

whole track to ourselves? fun for a bit but gets boring with no one to chaise, less so in the rain I guess

wannafbody 04-20-2012 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 867211)
whole track to ourselves? fun for a bit but gets boring with no one to chaise, less so in the rain I guess

Actually that wasn't the case, it started pouring down rain and we went out for another session. We were pushing fairly hard and at times I couldn't even see the back of her car due to the plume of rain coming off the back of it. Good learning lesson.

Handy Man 04-22-2012 09:58 PM

Just got back from a rainy time trial. Only 6 people decided to show up, and 2 dropped out early... so we ended up getting as much track time as we wanted. :p

Not only that, but my brakes and tires showed very little wear afterwards. I love rainy track days :cool:


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