Ripper or Drystop Fuel Jugs for the Miata?
Time to upgrade my fuel jug for the Miata for track days since my old one cracked. I was checking out going with one of the ripper nozzle units vs the normal VP racing hose style outlets. Wanted to see if anyone had any positive experiences with them. I am assuming they go down far enough to push the flapper out of the way in the stock fuel tank but I wanted to confirm if anyone else has had good experiences with them. If not, I will be the guinea pig :-D
I figured best to ask since I know these fuel jugs sometimes don't work with certain cars (namely Porsches are what I'm thinking of). Apparently on the older air cooled ones, these don't go down far or something. Not entirely sure. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8231c304e4.jpg |
Im sure as it empties, it slows, but does it get easier than this? zip tie the handle and eat lunch.
https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/s...xoCrxcQAvD_BwE https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4ba41a913a.jpg |
I use this for the boat.
https://www.amazon.com/VP-Gallon-Square-Racing-Utility/dp/B00AV2ENFU/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1546561751&sr=1-4&keywords=fuel+jug
Good vent, minimal to no leakage. I do not recall either my NA or NB having flappers. Either way, this fuel jug would work perfectly fine even if it did, the PVC pipe is long enough to push any flapper out of the way. It's not "hose" style and has a solid sch80 PVC pipe at the end with a cap you take off. |
Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
(Post 1517415)
Im sure as it empties, it slows, but does it get easier than this? zip tie the handle and eat lunch.
https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/s...xoCrxcQAvD_BwE https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4ba41a913a.jpg
Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 1517422)
I use this for the boat.
https://www.amazon.com/VP-Gallon-Squ...words=fuel+jug Good vent, minimal to no leakage. I do not recall either my NA or NB having flappers. Either way, this fuel jug would work perfectly fine even if it did, the PVC pipe is long enough to push any flapper out of the way. It's not "hose" style and has a solid sch80 PVC pipe at the end with a cap you take off. |
Says 2 gal a minut.
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I saw that. I misunderstood that it didn't require an external pump to get to that. The wording is weird on the site, "dispenses at 2 gallons per minute with a siphon pump" so I was assuming there was a +12v pump that you needed to get to that range or something. Seems that with other models like this, that just means gravity fed siphon... not an external pump. That's pretty quick. lol, I'll look like I know what the heck I'm doing out there with a rig like that.
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I use the ripper cap.
It works very well, fill time is quicker I find than just using a regular hose and unless you manually open it you can't spill anything. Plus it's a lot easier physically since you don't have to be lifting it up the entire time. You will a KTM adapter though, I just tested it without and it doesn't work. |
They can be a little messy if you're not careful when pulling out of if you've filled the car all the way up. I've only used them on a enduro Miata which had a punched out fuel filler, so I can't attest to the depth required.
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Originally Posted by Bopop
(Post 1517446)
I use the ripper cap.
It works very well, fill time is quicker I find than just using a regular hose and unless you manually open it you can't spill anything. Plus it's a lot easier physically since you don't have to be lifting it up the entire time. You will a KTM adapter though, I just tested it without and it doesn't work.
Originally Posted by Midtenn
(Post 1517469)
They can be a little messy if you're not careful when pulling out of if you've filled the car all the way up. I've only used them on a enduro Miata which had a punched out fuel filler, so I can't attest to the depth required.
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@got boost?
We personally do not have any hands on experience with that type of jug you showed.. but we figured we could show you some other options to consider! Hope these could help others shopping make some decisions or have some comparisons. Option 1 5 Gallon jug w/ 7/8th cap and hose kit. Specifically 7/8th's since it will fit the standard fuel filler neck. flo fast hose kit fuel cell fueling gas-Stable Energies Scribner Utility Jug 5 gallon racing fuel-Stable Energies Option 2 7.5 Gallon jug w/ Flo Fast Pump System Flo Fast Fuel Jug 7.5 gallon racing-Stable Energies flo fast pump system 5 7 15 race fuel-Stable Energies General info and options. Fuel Jugs - Fuel Jug - Fuel Funnels - Fuel Funnel |
Scribner jug user here.
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Timely post. We are just punching out our filler neck to use the spring close jug in the OP's first post.
It will do 2nd duty for my MX racing. I figure we pretty much know how much fuel we are going to be adding so should never or rarely get to the point where it will overflow out the toop of the tank. My only concern is that the fuel filler flap is part of the OEM roll over fuel spill safety but cant see that it is....anyone care to elaborate on that? |
Originally Posted by @StableEnergies
(Post 1518014)
@got boost?
We personally do not have any hands on experience with that type of jug you showed.. but we figured we could show you some other options to consider! Hope these could help others shopping make some decisions or have some comparisons. Option 1 5 Gallon jug w/ 7/8th cap and hose kit. Specifically 7/8th's since it will fit the standard fuel filler neck. flo fast hose kit fuel cell fueling gas-Stable Energies Scribner Utility Jug 5 gallon racing fuel-Stable Energies Option 2 7.5 Gallon jug w/ Flo Fast Pump System Flo Fast Fuel Jug 7.5 gallon racing-Stable Energies flo fast pump system 5 7 15 race fuel-Stable Energies General info and options. Fuel Jugs - Fuel Jug - Fuel Funnels - Fuel Funnel
Originally Posted by mx5-kiwi
(Post 1518376)
Timely post. We are just punching out our filler neck to use the spring close jug in the OP's first post.
It will do 2nd duty for my MX racing. I figure we pretty much know how much fuel we are going to be adding so should never or rarely get to the point where it will overflow out the toop of the tank. My only concern is that the fuel filler flap is part of the OEM roll over fuel spill safety but cant see that it is....anyone care to elaborate on that? |
Originally Posted by GotBoost
(Post 1518432)
That's neat. Who makes that one? |
Same. Hunsaker ftw. The plumbing that comes with it isn’t ideal, but works fine for a Miata. If you look at the diameter of the vent vs the diameter of the fill, you’ll see what I mean. Fill could be made out of thinner metal vs the thick plastic it comes with. We’ve figured we could get our 15 gallons poured in in ~90 seconds with a few mods. |
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