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2manyhobyz 11-01-2012 11:17 PM

Should I drill a hole in my engine block?
 
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I'm in the process of building my motor now. It has been discussed about how to vent the gasses from the block under boost. I was looking at the vent hole that is raised and located at the back on the passenger side. It appears that port and the one ahead of it connect together along the side of the block right where the BP lettering is and then goes down to a very large casting hole, you can see it when you look inside the block. Has anybody drilled a block vent hole there? It's high enough in the block that G-forces on the oil wouldn't be a factor there. 3/8" NPT with a 90 pointing up would ensure any stray oil would drain back. Has anybody else thought of this? Downside?

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18psi 11-01-2012 11:23 PM

or just run ALLOFIT and let the block vent itself

hustler 11-01-2012 11:24 PM

AIDSthread.

soviet 11-01-2012 11:33 PM

why?
you can weld a single -12AN bung to your valve cover and not have any blow-by issues with a single catch can.

Faeflora 11-02-2012 03:17 AM

So how much boost are you running?

80psi?

Savington 11-02-2012 03:25 AM

No.

curly 11-02-2012 08:29 AM

VTA block FTL.

phillyb 11-02-2012 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by 2manyhobyz (Post 945749)
should i drill a hole in my engine block

yes

thenuge26 11-02-2012 08:43 AM

Drill a bigger hole, make it a 5 cylinder.

2manyhobyz 11-02-2012 10:01 AM

I was looking at the catch can thread and it seemed that BBundy was trying to come up with a solution for this.If I recall, you cot all the oil draining back down and its competeng with gasses that are trying to get to the valve cover. I've done the improvements to the valve cover. Boost will be in the low 20's down the road. (What's max psi a 2560 can be used at?) I just if seemed like a logical location then drill and tap it, install a plug, then down the road it could be of benefit later.

18psi 11-02-2012 10:52 AM

lol 20psi on a 2560

2manyhobyz 11-02-2012 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 945852)
lol 20psi on a 2560

Vlad, OK, maybe I phrased that wrong. The question was what is the safe maximum operating pressure for the 2560. This spring I will be looking at an upgrade.
Sav, you say no, Bob was looking for a solution. I thought there was research to support that block venting was a good thing?

Faeflora 11-02-2012 11:43 AM

Just run a dry sump with a vacuuum pump. That is what the cool kids are doing now

18psi 11-02-2012 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by 2manyhobyz (Post 945860)
Vlad, OK, maybe I phrased that wrong. The question was what is the safe maximum operating pressure for the 2560. This spring I will be looking at an upgrade.
Sav, you say no, Bob was looking for a solution. I thought there was research to support that block venting was a good thing?

Probably no more than 18 max and even then it will probably taper.
But even if you do upgrade later, unless you run something sized like FAIRYFLOWERS BORGWARNER S366 I just don't see the need for anything fancy. And drilling block for vents just seems like an insanely crazy idea.

sixshooter 11-02-2012 12:19 PM

Only one hole? Weaksauce...

Leafy 11-02-2012 12:37 PM

Can we be constructive and support someone trying something new for a change? I want to see how this turns out. Do we know what that boss is there for and whats behind it? Its obviously an intentional casting boss either there just as a surface for the machinist to pick up on later or as a potential spot to drill for something.

bbundy 11-02-2012 12:47 PM

I have been running with a hole drilled in my block for a breather port for a couple years now. It works and was an improvement I believe.

I drilled up by the oil filter just behind the #1 squirter though. This is the same location that Mazda cast in a block breather port on 1.6l B6-T and early 1.6l Miata blocks but they never used it on cars imported to the US they just put a rubber cap over the nipple. They removed the port from the casting for the 1.8l blocks.

I Drilled and tapped to a ½” NPT to -10 an and JB welded the fitting in the block. Runs up to a T with a line coming from the Exhaust side valve cover vent then to a catch can with oil separator. Intake side PCV port is blocked off.

I have the catch can setup where I can vent it to atmosphere or to a slash cut that has the exhaust flow pull a small vacuum on it. It works better and makes less mess to have the exhaust flow sucking the blow-by gas out the tailpipe though technically not legal pre SCCA GCR.

Bob

hustler 11-02-2012 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 945893)
Can we be constructive and support someone trying something new for a change?

low testosterone post.

bbundy 11-02-2012 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 945907)
low testosterone post.

It takes someone with Balls to drill a hole in there block.

18psi 11-02-2012 01:14 PM

we already have Fae for that:fael:


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