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NA6C-Guy 02-16-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rweatherford (Post 523511)
I have watched that thing over and over and over and it scared me pretty bad. I have a bar (single cross beam from passengers side) and it worried me. Do miata's roll during auto-x on pavement? I've never seen one, but I was curious. I have also been off a road course on wet grass/mud and just slid around and sloshed junk in the windows.

That one really scared be because of how fast it went from sliding to rolling and it didn't seem like there was much reason, but perhaps he made it to some rough ground really quick or cought on the edge of the pavement. I just couldn't tell and am not familiar with that track.

I also don't have a harness yet. His head was playing ping pong in there.

Without a harness and a helmet, that would have likely been much worse. It looks like his head got slammed to the outside a few times, into the ground as he rolled. You can bet without a harness and/or helmet your head would have hit something pretty damn hard, and you would be sliding out of your seats a LOT more.

Forgot I had this. Same car I think.

crashnscar 02-16-2010 10:15 PM

Result of the crash:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/...84174897_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/...c959cf47_o.jpg

I wouldn't want to know about it if he didn't have the safety equipment that he did.

mgeoffriau 02-16-2010 10:21 PM

Sexy wheels.

Eadohcturbo 02-16-2010 10:26 PM

Ok Roll bar first..then turbo.
I've been thru that turn at 100+ and will look at it differently next time I run thru it.

curly 02-16-2010 10:30 PM

Any of you know the driver's results after the crash? I couldn't give a crap about the car in a crash, just as long as I'm ok. Hearing that he survived fine wouldn't keep me from wanting a cage, but he essentially has the exact same setup I do, so it'd make me feel better. Bet that tow strap got some good use that day.

GeneSplicer 02-16-2010 11:01 PM

He's lucky there wasn't anything else he could've rolled on/into... like a guard rail or something. That harddog wouldn't have done crap from stopping something protruding into the 'cabin'...

NA6C-Guy 02-16-2010 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by GeneSplicer (Post 523596)
That harddog wouldn't have done crap from stopping something protruding into the 'cabin'...

That's what she said.

That is one of my fears with the Miata. With my luck, I will roll over the only broken fence post in the field when I roll off the road and get impaled.

FRT_Fun 02-16-2010 11:07 PM

I never really though about that... I can see rolling into a light pole or something where the car is on it's side and the pole goes right through the driver/passenger seat... yikes :(

GeneSplicer 02-16-2010 11:08 PM

LMAO! Only us southern boys...

Also to add HANS and Halo... ask how his neck felt after that one.

:idea: Speaking of Harddog... time to meet the wifey...

NA6C-Guy 02-16-2010 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by GeneSplicer (Post 523607)
LMAO! Only us southern boys...

Also to add HANS and Halo... ask how his neck felt after that one.

:idea: Speaking of Harddog... time to meet the wifey...

Salty Ham representing in up this hoe!

What part of Bham? I'm in Leeds. What color is your car, I'll be sure to throw up the wave if I see you.

flier129 02-16-2010 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by rweatherford (Post 523511)
I have watched that thing over and over and over and it scared me pretty bad. I have a bar (single cross beam from passengers side) and it worried me. Do miata's roll during auto-x on pavement? I've never seen one, but I was curious. I have also been off a road course on wet grass/mud and just slid around and sloshed junk in the windows.

That one really scared be because of how fast it went from sliding to rolling and it didn't seem like there was much reason, but perhaps he made it to some rough ground really quick or cought on the edge of the pavement. I just couldn't tell and am not familiar with that track.

I also don't have a harness yet. His head was playing ping pong in there.

A car hasn't rolled at an autox since the 70s. Thats based on some local old autox vets.

That video reminds me I need to get a rollbar/cage in my car pretty soon lol. I believe the condition of the track had a little to do with the roll over. Looks like he caught a bad patch of pavement, cant tell for sure.

longuyen88 02-16-2010 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 523619)
A car hasn't rolled at an autox since the 70s. Thats based on some local old autox vets.

That video reminds me I need to get a rollbar/cage in my car pretty soon lol. I believe the condition of the track had a little to do with the roll over. Looks like he caught a bad patch of pavement, cant tell for sure.

A guy rolled his brand spankin' new Mini S back in 07 in our region...

and lol at the clubroadster sticker!

NA6C-Guy 02-16-2010 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 523619)
A car hasn't rolled at an autox since the 70s. Thats based on some local old autox vets.

That video reminds me I need to get a rollbar/cage in my car pretty soon lol. I believe the condition of the track had a little to do with the roll over. Looks like he caught a bad patch of pavement, cant tell for sure.

I doubt that. At a long autox course a year or two ago I saw a 60's VW Beetle nearly roll several times going through some "high speed" (for a Beetle) S's. It was funny as hell. Two tire riding in the Bug.

flier129 02-16-2010 11:25 PM

I meant at nationals :-\. I can see an under-prepped car on a unprepped course flip :(

I've seen an e36 m3 ride on two wheels for a sec. It was in SM and was hauling some ass.

NA6C-Guy 02-16-2010 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 523633)
I meant at nationals :-\. I can see an under-prepped car on a unprepped course flip :(

I've seen an e36 m3 ride on two wheels for a sec. It was in SM and was hauling some ass.

Ah, maybe that I can see.

rweatherford 02-17-2010 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 523633)
I meant at nationals :-\. I can see an under-prepped car on a unprepped course flip :(

I've seen an e36 m3 ride on two wheels for a sec. It was in SM and was hauling some ass.

Eh... Whattya think our cars are going to be doing while auto-xing? ;)

NA6C-Guy 02-17-2010 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by rweatherford (Post 523671)
Eh... Whattya think our cars are going to be doing while auto-xing? ;)

Broken down looking gay.

magnamx-5 02-17-2010 12:53 AM

meh i been sideways a few times at 80+ lets just say im glad my wheels only felt like they where starting to tip cause i would have been dead if they had tipped. I found in the second or so when you are carreening out of control there is sometimes a moment where you know hey if i gas it here it might straighten out and head of into the median. And then you are almost surprised when it works, and you are still alive.

GeneSplicer 02-17-2010 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 523616)
Salty Ham representing in up this hoe!

In Helena, I'll have be on the lookout for you! The only time you'll see my '91 will be on a trailer being puilled by a Yukon. She's a track-only ride... WITH a roll cage. That's is unless you venture out to Barbers on some track days. Car should be ready for the PBOC weekend Mar28th...

Get that cage and hard top and come play! (and $435 cash for the weekend)

kotomile 02-17-2010 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by rweatherford (Post 523511)
Do miata's roll during auto-x on pavement?

I don't know of any Miatas rolling at autox, but my dad managed to get a D stock Civic wheels up once at an autox in WI.


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