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wannafbody 08-04-2012 05:39 PM

Straight 40 weight oil vs
 
5w40. Is there an advantage to running a synthetic straight weight oil on track?

Leafy 08-06-2012 09:49 AM

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Braineack 08-06-2012 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by wannafbody (Post 911431)
5w40. Is there an advantage to running a synthetic straight weight oil on track?

5w40 vs w40?


it's the same oil. just one has additives to help in colder temps.

Leafy 08-06-2012 09:57 AM

Take it back a step, if both oils are synthetic the straight 40 and the 5w40 are the same oil except the 5w40 doesnt get as thick when the engine is cold. If the 5w40 is dino oil then they are not the same, its actually a 5w oil with additives that make it act like a straight 40 once up to temp.

wannafbody 08-07-2012 09:45 AM

I use synthetic, so you pretty much answered my question.

Leafy 08-07-2012 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by wannafbody (Post 912367)
I use synthetic, so you pretty much answered my question.

Right so you want to run the synthetic 5w40 over the synthetic straight 40. I'm not sure the car will even be able to crank with straight 40 in it.

y8s 08-07-2012 10:55 AM

it'll crank but it wont lubricate anything for like 20 minutes while the oil is warming up and can't flow.

NiklasFalk 08-07-2012 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 912390)
Right so you want to run the synthetic 5w40 over the synthetic straight 40. I'm not sure the car will even be able to crank with straight 40 in it.

Different oils behave differently over time (and some is pure snake oil).
Some argue that a straight oil live longer at higher temps (theory being that the visco modifiers break down with heat/time). At the same time you don't have only 100 degrees C (spec temp for the higher viscosity number) as the max temp in the engine.
120 in the pan is not uncommon and should not be alarming. That means you can have 140-150 elsewhere (still no alarming temp for a good oil).
How the visco curves looks at 150 degrees C (think rod bearing oil film thickness) can vary some between straight 40 and 5W40 (and they can differ up there too).

I'm not arguing for one over the other but cold start viscosity is hopefully not the only prio in this subforum. Oil pan preheating is the norm, right :D


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