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aidandj 02-03-2015 04:00 PM

Sub $50 10Hz GPS Receiver
 
This idea came up because GPS chips are cheap, and so are bluetooth chips, and I didn't feel like paying ~$100 for something I could do myself.

Deezums pointed me on to this chip (it took about 3 weeks to get here), and I used an HC-05 bluetooth module that I have from work, same one I used on my MS3. I thought that I would have to use a micro controller in the middle but the output of the GPS turned out to be exactly what most apps need. After a bit of configuration I was able to get it to work.

Also ordered this (thanks Schuyler) and will be testing it too.

I will be adding a small power supply mini-usb breakout and 3d printing a case. After I get that all done I will update this with a little how-to for people who want to follow suit.

Total cost so far:

$25 gps ($16 maybe)
$7 bluetooth
$2 mini-usb

$34 ($25 maybe)

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cyotani 02-03-2015 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1202594)
This idea came up because GPS chips are cheap, and so are bluetooth chips, and I didn't feel like paying ~$100 for something I could do myself.

Deezums pointed me on to this chip (it took about 3 weeks to get here), and I used an HC-05 bluetooth module that I have from work, same one I used on my MS3. I thought that I would have to use a micro controller in the middle but the output of the GPS turned out to be exactly what most apps need. After a bit of configuration I was able to get it to work.

I will be adding a small power supply and 3d printing a case. After I get that all done I will update this with a little how-to for people who want to follow suit.

Total cost so far:

$25 gps
$7 bluetooth
$4 power

$36

Nice project. What are you using to log the data? Does it just send and log NEMA sentences? I think the GPS unit used on my project is the same one but I haven't gotten around to changing the refresh rate from the default 1Hz

aidandj 02-03-2015 04:23 PM

It hooks up to any android app that supports NMEA protocols. So far tested with racechrono and harrys lap timer.

cyotani 02-03-2015 04:29 PM

Got it. How long does it typically take you to get a satellite lock from a cold start?

Is there any support for an external antenna?

aidandj 02-03-2015 04:32 PM

Haven't done a whole bunch of testing. Probably around 30 seconds.

No idea? Its a chinese gps breakout board with no datasheet. I only dug in far enough to find power and tx/rx pins. I'm going to make a case with a clear acrylic top and mount it to my windshield so I'm not to worried about the antenna.

Schuyler 02-03-2015 05:23 PM

hmm, i'm gunna order one of these and give the same plan a shot.

RYN25AI 10Hz UART Interface High Performance GPS Glonass Antenna Module Battery | eBay

Hoping i get just as lucky when it comes to microprocessor necessity.

aidandj 02-03-2015 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Schuyler (Post 1202656)
hmm, i'm gunna order one of these and give the same plan a shot.

RYN25AI 10Hz UART Interface High Performance GPS Glonass Antenna Module Battery | eBay

Good find! I'm going to order one of them too. I'll compare the 2 and see if I notice any differences.

EO2K 02-03-2015 05:54 PM

I'd pay $35 for that, provided it comes with caveman-proof instructions.

aidandj 02-03-2015 05:58 PM

I don't want to commit to anything but if it works well and I don't run into any issues I will probably do a little group purchase. Gotta ask my boss what I would have to pay for 3d printing. Personal projects are free so I've never priced anything.

deezums 02-03-2015 07:02 PM

Hehe, thanks for being my guinea pig, I'm gonna go ahead and order one now :P

aidandj 02-03-2015 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by deezums (Post 1202681)
Hehe, thanks for being my guinea pig, I'm gonna go ahead and order one now :P

I'd use the ebay one. Bigger antenna. Better instructions.

fredricktsang 02-04-2015 12:31 PM

which bluetooth module did you get? I'm thinking of doing a bluetooth accelerometer module.

aidandj 02-04-2015 12:35 PM

HC-05. Phone accelerometers are a lot more accurate and fast than phone gps.

fredricktsang 02-04-2015 12:52 PM

I was using the phones accelerometer, but now I have the phone mounted on a windshield mount. The vibrations make the data from the phone sensor pretty much useless.

Leafy 02-04-2015 11:03 PM

Should consider not putting it in the windshield. You'll get lots of drops and shitty data if your roof goes between you and a couple satellites. This isnt noticable with 1hz phone gps, but its gets to be a problem when you're actually logging at 10hz. Best bet is on top of the hard top if you have one, or on the bit of metal just in front of the trunk.

fredricktsang 02-04-2015 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1203114)
Should consider not putting it in the windshield. You'll get lots of drops and shitty data if your roof goes between you and a couple satellites. This isnt noticable with 1hz phone gps, but its gets to be a problem when you're actually logging at 10hz. Best bet is on top of the hard top if you have one, or on the bit of metal just in front of the trunk.

Only phone is mounted on the windshield, the gps receiver is mounted on the roll bar, at the moment. So far no issues with gps reception encountered yet. But thanks for the tip, didn't think the soft top would mess with the gps signal so much.

aidandj 02-04-2015 11:11 PM

GPS is typically line of sight. I will be testing out some options. So far once this module gets a fix its pretty hard to lose it.

Leafy 02-04-2015 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by fredricktsang (Post 1203116)
Only phone is mounted on the windshield, the gps receiver is mounted on the roll bar, at the moment. So far no issues with gps reception encountered yet. But thanks for the tip, didn't think the soft top would mess with the gps signal so much.

Race Technologies tells you not even to put colored tape over the gps antenna for the DL1 because it can effect the signal. Black being the worse offender.

Schuyler 02-04-2015 11:52 PM

Ordered all the goodies. HC-06 and a 10hz GPS. Will update when I get it all soldered up and in an enclosure. Hopefully I can box it in and not have too big of an issue with signal.

aidandj 02-05-2015 12:19 AM

Im going to use a 3d printed case with a clear acrylic laser cut top to keep the interference down.


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