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Sav, I'd like your vendor contact info for the outfit that designs and casts your exhaust manifolds, exhaust studs and brake brackets. KTHANKSBYE.
FTFY
Buyers need to keep in mind if we don't patronize vendors like 949, Trackspeed and Bauer LTD the innovation stops. Don't support copycats by being cheap!!!
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It's one thing to ask Cord if the bearing he's using is case-carburized, through-hardened, or nothing. It's quite another to ask him to essentially provide you with all of the dimensional specifications on a product he hasn't even released yet.
I agree, I should have rephrased the question to specify that I only wanted to know about the bearing not the Hub assemblies Cord is developing.
Originally Posted by Savington
I assume you work in the industry
I do, I actually work at Timken. I shot you an email.
Originally Posted by Savington
This community is rife with knock-offs and rip-off artists. My own products have been ripped off by vendors who advertise on this site alongside me. So yes, you could say that it's a bit of a sore subject for me. Sorry if I offended you, but IMO it's inappropriate to pose such a question to a vendor regarding a product in development.
I am sorry I phrased the question in a way that came off as I was attempting make a knock-offs or rip Cord off in any way. I know between the work Cord, you at TrackSpeed, Emilio at 949, Moti at BlackBird, Ryan at Singular, plus a few others are innovating products for the miata community that otherwise would never exist. We would still be dreaming of these products if it wasn't for you guys.
It's one thing to ask Cord if the bearing he's using is case-carburized, through-hardened, or nothing. It's quite another to ask him to essentially provide you with all of the dimensional specifications on a product he hasn't even released yet.
I agree, I should have rephrased the question to specify that I only wanted to know about the bearing not the Hub assemblies Cord is developing.
Originally Posted by Savington
I assume you work in the industry
I do, I actually work at Timken. I shot you an email.
Originally Posted by Savington
This community is rife with knock-offs and rip-off artists. My own products have been ripped off by vendors who advertise on this site alongside me. So yes, you could say that it's a bit of a sore subject for me. Sorry if I offended you, but IMO it's inappropriate to pose such a question to a vendor regarding a product in development.
I am sorry I phrased the question in a way that came off as I was attempting make a knock-offs or rip Cord off in any way. I know between the work Cord, you at TrackSpeed, Emilio at 949, Moti at BlackBird, Ryan at Singular, plus a few others are innovating products for the miata community that otherwise would never exist. We would still be dreaming of these products if it wasn't for you guys.
First of all, anyone selling to the Miata crowd is doing it because they love it, not because it's a path to riches and fame. I've regretted most of the time I've given away supplier information. For example, I've had suppliers get so busy with a new customer that I've connected them up with that they no longer had much time for me. Good for them, not for me. So as a general rule I don't give out the information.
Second, the hubs are being built to fix an ongoing problem, hopefully by applying quality parts. That's one reason why I mentioned that we're using Timken bearings. But since it's also the Miata crowd, we aren't using exotic materials with exotic bearing choices or going for ultimate light weight. If you were the Chianti-sipping Ferrari crowd, I would, but you're just cheap Miata bastards, like me.
The other reason why I mentioned Timken is whenever parts are made offshore, people immediately think of Chinese crap. It's not. It's Amurrican engineered with Amurrican bearings, and with forged hub assemblies coming from a tier 1 manufacturer in Taiwan. Tier 1 means that they directly supply OEM manufacturers.
So we're just waiting for the first samples for some real-world testing. I can't wait.
Front and rear hubs, sans studs. Tapered Roller Bearing.
New rear hub is thicker than O.E., has a nice flare at the root, and is also Tapered Roller Bearing. The Rear hub is thicker, has a nice transition at the root of the flange and also uses a tapered roller bearing.
The hubs came in yesterday and went out for testing today. The test will be for general use, temperature and overall track ability. The goal for the front hub is safety, longevity, and something that doesn't need servicing every season. The rear hub has a thicker flange with a nice transition at the root and also uses tapered roller bearings. We're looking at more than one spline type in order to accommodate the V8's.
Front and rear hubs, sans studs. Tapered Roller Bearing.
New rear hub is thicker than O.E., has a nice flare at the root, and is also Tapered Roller Bearing. The Rear hub is thicker, has a nice transition at the root of the flange and also uses a tapered roller bearing.
The hubs came in yesterday and went out for testing today. The test will be for general use, temperature and overall track ability. The goal for the front hub is safety, longevity, and something that doesn't need servicing every season. The rear hub has a thicker flange with a nice transition at the root and also uses tapered roller bearings. We're looking at more than one spline type in order to accommodate the V8's.
I say you need hardcore Beta testers. Namely, those with documented evidence of having broken/cracked their rear hubs on track (after all, anyone can trash a front hub).
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Originally Posted by hornetball
I say you need hardcore Beta testers. Namely, those with documented evidence of having broken/cracked their rear hubs on track (after all, anyone can trash a front hub).
I also say that you need a tester that drives 100 miles a day on some of the nations worst public roads.
I say you need hardcore Beta testers. Namely, those with documented evidence of having broken/cracked their rear hubs on track (after all, anyone can trash a front hub).
Keith & Emilio, turbo cars abused mercilessly. And then tested methodically because I don't think those two do anything track-related without planning it out first.
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