Originally Posted by RavynX (Post 875497)

That may be too long for me to wait. ;D

The question is, can it handle T11 at H2R? ;) Here's how my current Koni/GC handles the bump...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfiSJ3xHCc

Originally Posted by hustler (Post 878120)

Is that a new bump? Seriously, I've never come close to going over a bump there that hard. The bumps prior to the chicane aren't a big deal anymore. I drove around them when I had the Tein stuff, now I drive over them and don't care.

Originally Posted by hustler (Post 878124)

Basically, if you have the money to do it, you'd be a fool not to. My shocks are great and the Xidas do everything better. I probably should have waited 6-months to get the Xidas, but whatever. When it comes time to rebuild them, I'm just going to order Xidas and probably keep these shocks as spares or something.

You will not regret buying them at all. They changed the way my car drove. What was once white-knuckle scary stuff, is boring now.

Originally Posted by RavynX (Post 878126)

Nice, once I get the MegaSquirt ems in and tuned I'll be purchasing a set of Xida CS and selling the Koni/GC setup. I'll post some videos here for a before-and-after look as well.

Originally Posted by RavynX (Post 875065)

I went from 60k mile stock shocks to Moton Club Sports on my S2000 and noticed a world of a difference. I just wasn't sure what differences I would see going from Koni to AST.

I probably won't be competing in NASA TT nationally for a while since I'm working on SCCA Solo II stuff nationally. I was hoping I could build a car to chase you in TTB or spoolin in TTA. I just need to find out if it's more fun to drive a turbo Miata than a track prepped s2k. If it's the Miata then it's time to upgrade the shocks. ;)

Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 878132)

really, I dont think you can compaire motons to stock

Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 878132)

really, I dont think you can compaire motons to stock

Originally Posted by hustler (Post 878135)

An S2K with a stock-ish engine, 255 NT-01s, and aero is faster than me. I'd take the S2K...but that's probably because I have the Miata. At this point, the Miata is basically a vintage thing. We are slow, gay, and stupid.

Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 878139)

hustler, I'm new to the nasa world, did my first nasa event a couple weeks ago and hopefully I'll have my license at the next event, ( first time was a shake down didnt even ask about tt). what makes you say a miata, miata turbo cant be competitive? turbo on a non turbo car? or is it more then this? it does seem the field reflects your statement but I would like to know what specifically makes the Matias not competitive.

Originally Posted by hustler (Post 878135)

An S2K with a stock-ish engine, 255 NT-01s, and aero is faster than me. I'd take the S2K...but that's probably because I have the Miata. At this point, the Miata is basically a vintage thing. We are slow, gay, and stupid.

Originally Posted by RavynX (Post 878136)

That was the point I was trying to make. The Motons were leaps and bounds above stock (and the stock s2k suspension isn't all that bad, but yes, it's still stock). I was wanting to know if the Xidas were a step up enough from the Koni/GC to justify the cost. If they were only going to be marginally better then there's no point in spending the extra grand after selling the Koni/GC to warrant the upgrade. :)


For some reason I find that hard to believe. Are you talking about when you detune to TTB they're faster than you or is this compared to your full-power tune? It would be fun to build a TTC s2k but insurance would be hell having 2 in the garage. :vash:

Also, hustler, I shared the turbo miata & ttc s2k Google Docs with ya just for kicks looking at build costs.

Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 878141)

f- off I, just got my miata and it is the new hotmess! if i cant keep up with a s2000 on track then I should just take up golf.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 878388)

Pick up a set of clubs, then. S2000s are unbelievably fast with virtually no modifications.

Originally Posted by hustler (Post 874970)

TTC S2K will be competitive. No Miata will ever be competitive in TT outside from TTE. Nasa makes it very clear in classing that they want Evos winning A; E46, S197, and S2Ks winning in B and C.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 878388)

Pick up a set of clubs, then. S2000s are unbelievably fast with virtually no modifications.

I drove one at an autocross once - you turn, and the car rotates, and then you add power to settle the rear end, and it both rotates and accelerates the car in a way I've never experienced before. They are silly fast.

A competent driver can get into a 100% bone stock S2000 (stock tires) and go faster than a Spec Miata at any track in the country.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 878388)

Pick up a set of clubs, then. S2000s are unbelievably fast with virtually no modifications.

I drove one at an autocross once - you turn, and the car rotates, and then you add power to settle the rear end, and it both rotates and accelerates the car in a way I've never experienced before. They are silly fast.

A competent driver can get into a 100% bone stock S2000 (stock tires) and go faster than a Spec Miata at any track in the country.