Originally Posted by spoolin2bars
(Post 1171183)
Was that your first off? No offense but it doesn't look like you've had that much track time to be worried about perfecting your setup. Not really pushing the limits in the corners. If your not throwing a tiny bit of counter in, your not finding the limits. A fast auto-x course is a good place to practice this and get your timing, car sliding butt-o-meter, etc. calibrated. And at less scary, less car or tire damaging speeds.
As an aside...I am REALLY careful on a wet track since an off puts you in wet grass. For you southern California boys...wet grass is like greased lightning...once your in it, figure your going to hit the tire walls or the Armco or something! |
Not to sidetrack the thread but the above is the reason why I don't drive my car anywhere but the street. It is my summer driver and I can't afford to lose it if I go off track and ball it up. I have heard though that some companies offer HPDE insurance. Has anyone heard of something like that? I was listening to a car related podcast and they were interviewing a guy who raced porsches and he said he paid a couple hundred dollars for insurance for the day (of HPDE). Now, a porsche is far more expensive than a Miata so I would think that the insurance price is a bit lower.
I know that if I had the option of paying $200 on top of the HPDE cost I would be much more comfortable driving the car hard. |
Yes it is available. If you don't pay for the HPDE insurance you have to be able to afford to lose your car. That is a choice all of us have made one way or the other. There are still some people I meet at track days that think their insurance will cover them. They rarely do, if at all, anymore
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Originally Posted by tomiboy
(Post 1172059)
Yes it is available. If you don't pay for the HPDE insurance you have to be able to afford to lose your car. That is a choice all of us have made one way or the other. There are still some people I meet at track days that think their insurance will cover them. They rarely do, if at all, anymore
Yes there are a lot of companies that provide HPDE insurance. They even offer discounts for multiple events if you buy at once. Its not too expensive either. Most of the ones I see ask you to declare a value and give you the price. |
NC and TX used to have no exclusions for things like HPDEs.
NC closed that loophole 2 years ago by rewording the language to basically say "if you're anywhere near a race track or other facility where people go fast in circles, you can get bent". I don't know off-hand about TX. |
Originally Posted by Chiburbian
(Post 1172057)
Not to sidetrack the thread but the above is the reason why I don't drive my car anywhere but the street. It is my summer driver and I can't afford to lose it if I go off track and ball it up. I have heard though that some companies offer HPDE insurance. Has anyone heard of something like that? I was listening to a car related podcast and they were interviewing a guy who raced porsches and he said he paid a couple hundred dollars for insurance for the day (of HPDE). Now, a porsche is far more expensive than a Miata so I would think that the insurance price is a bit lower.
I know that if I had the option of paying $200 on top of the HPDE cost I would be much more comfortable driving the car hard. But I believe they have a $5000 deductible, so if you wad it up, you're out at least that much more. |
Time for a new thread on HPDE insurance
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Hi,
Where do most of you set your front bar? Soft or hard? Set to hard currently, and car understeers quite a lot. I will try the soft setting, but thinking about 16mm adjustable rear bar. Car specs: Big Grip Kit 800/500 springs basically full weight 4.5" front, 4.75" rear Supermiata race alignment Cheers. |
Originally Posted by Neddy
(Post 1358201)
Hi,
Where do most of you set your front bar? Soft or hard? Set to hard currently, and car understeers quite a lot. I will try the soft setting, but thinking about 16mm adjustable rear bar. Car specs: Big Grip Kit 800/500 springs basically full weight 4.5" front, 4.75" rear Supermiata race alignment Cheers. |
Originally Posted by Neddy
(Post 1358201)
Hi,
Where do most of you set your front bar? Soft or hard? Set to hard currently, and car understeers quite a lot. I will try the soft setting, but thinking about 16mm adjustable rear bar. Car specs: Big Grip Kit 800/500 springs basically full weight 4.5" front, 4.75" rear Supermiata race alignment Cheers. May I ask, were you using fresh tires? What size wheel. offset, tire size and compound? |
What's your aero? Understeer all the time, or just at high or low speed?
+1 on running washers between the sway bar bracket and mounting point to avoid pinching the bar. With those spring rates, I would not hesitate to experiment with a softer front setting. Lots of variables . . . . |
Just try it on the softest setting, and see how that changes things. I ran my previous car on the front swaybar soft setting for most of its life. 2740# with driver, 700/400, big grip, either toyo RR or Maxxis RC1 225 on 9's. This costs you nothing, and only about 30 minutes of your time.
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