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Old 05-22-2012, 12:04 AM
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Vlad, I didnt create this thread or any thread to brag....just throwing out ideas and seeing what has been done/proven and what hasn't.

I have tracked many things, carts(when I was younger), Honda's, Nissans, bikes a vette I had for a while, and a t25 miata I used to have. Currently I have a 05 RSX-S modded(daily, for sale/trade), 350z Track, and 2 miata's The one I'm building up and my screw around town sr20(gt2871) miata(350 whp) and the ducati 748. Going this week to hopefully trade by RSX for a Stage 3 B5 S4, a little more suitable daily.

Anyway, lets not focus on if I can handle it, why not just encourage me to do it?? You wouldn't like to see me build a car I cant handle??
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Vlad, I didnt create this thread or any thread to brag....just throwing out ideas and seeing what has been done/proven and what hasn't.

I have tracked many things, carts(when I was younger), Honda's, Nissans, bikes a vette I had for a while, and a t25 miata I used to have. Currently I have a 05 RSX-S modded(daily, for sale/trade), 350z Track, and 2 miata's The one I'm building up and my screw around town sr20(gt2871) miata(350 whp) and the ducati 748. Going this week to hopefully trade by RSX for a Stage 3 B5 S4, a little more suitable daily.

Anyway, lets not focus on if I can handle it, why not just encourage me to do it?? You wouldn't like to see me build a car I cant handle??


Pics of all your other cars plz
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Originally Posted by rccote
Too many. What's your track experience, boost? Just curious. But it must be some impressive ---- to make you think you can handle a 500hp coffin on slicks.
I've no track experience. That's why every thread/question I make is specifically labeled "street car".

And yeah, until I see tons of pics/info from OP these threads are all just **** in the wind.

Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Vlad, I didnt create this thread or any thread to brag....just throwing out ideas and seeing what has been done/proven and what hasn't.

I have tracked many things, carts(when I was younger), Honda's, Nissans, bikes a vette I had for a while, and a t25 miata I used to have. Currently I have a 05 RSX-S modded(daily, for sale/trade), 350z Track, and 2 miata's The one I'm building up and my screw around town sr20(gt2871) miata(350 whp) and the ducati 748. Going this week to hopefully trade by RSX for a Stage 3 B5 S4, a little more suitable daily.

Anyway, lets not focus on if I can handle it, why not just encourage me to do it?? You wouldn't like to see me build a car I cant handle??


I own 20 ferraris, 69 lambos, and daily a veyron on slicks.
I also have a 8 foot dick and have to fight off supermodels who want to ---- me every day.

I wonder what kinda ***** shifter I should get for my pagani zonda
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I count at least 47 ninjas in that photo.

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lol, how are you at -190 props?
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Originally Posted by 18psi
I also have a 8 foot dick and have to fight off supermodels who want to ---- me every day.

I wonder what kinda ***** shifter I should get for my pagani zonda






Thank you 18psi for making my night
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Originally Posted by 18psi
I've no track experience. That's why every thread/question I make is specifically labeled "street car".

And yeah, until I see tons of pics/info from OP these threads are all just **** in the wind.




I own 20 ferraris, 69 lambos, and daily a veyron on slicks.
I also have a 8 foot dick and have to fight off supermodels who want to ---- me every day.

I wonder what kinda ***** shifter I should get for my pagani zonda


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I know you don't track any of your cars, vlad. I wanted to know about boost joose and his track xp. I'm not trying to call him out or anything it's just 500hp in a track prepped miata with serious rubber to me would be retarded fast. It obviously takes some ***** to drive something like that to the limit, just curious why he thinks he has the ***** to do it.
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I am sad tho cus i met this stripper earlier who was cute and hoish as shi and i failed tonclose on her
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All of it.
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LOL

"What's your track experience, boost? Just curious. But it must be some impressive ---- to make you think you can handle a -500hp coffin on slicks-."

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Originally Posted by Faeflora
Pics of all your other cars plz
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All I could get to this morning before work. The car in question and bike are at 2 different shops.

Ok, can we get this thread back on topic, and off me?

Since Sierra Sierra and many other time attack teams are using a "smaller tire" than they're capable of this leads me to think there is some truth to having too much tire. But then again I saw this imprezza set the Road Atlanta time attack record there on 305 18's 2 weekends ago....
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Dayum....I do believe that would pull 2G

Any rim options you're familiar with?
Wheels would be custom.

Real,
Bogart,
Kodiak,
Spinwerks,

Or somthing. Real I think is very resonably priced for a custom wheel.
And FWIW I have been really impressed with a Nisan GTR flared and running 345/30/19’s on all four corners talk about tire.

As an example of what it might look like.

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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Since Sierra Sierra and many other time attack teams are using a "smaller tire" than they're capable of this leads me to think there is some truth to having too much tire. But then again I saw this imprezza set the Road Atlanta time attack record there on 305 18's 2 weekends ago....
Do yourself a favor and stop making assumptions like that, dude. Time attack teams use smaller tires because an uber-sticky tire like a Hankook C91 or other one-lap special may not come in a 335/345/355 size. The only reason you would have for using a smaller tire is to reduce the aero footprint of the car, and you can do that in other ways that don't harm the ability of the car to get all the power down.

You've obviously never driven a 400+whp Miata - suggesting that a narrower tire might be faster is amusing to say the least.
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There is also the factor of how much heat can you get into the tire. In a Miata that only weighs 2000lbs, you're going to have a hell of a time getting some of the larger tires up to temp for a time attack session.
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Originally Posted by Savington
You've obviously never driven a 400+whp Miata - suggesting that a narrower tire might be faster is amusing to say the least.
You act like I'm suggesting a 185 would be better than a 275. All I'm questioning is at what point does the tire width/size/overall weight become a hinderance to speed? I know you can not answer this question straight up due to the variation of variables in my car and any car that might have run a super wide tire.

Ex: A 500 tread width tire(if it was made and possible to fit) would not be faster than a 275 hoosier. But does anyone have any solid info at what point/power level it would become questionable?
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There is also the factor of how much heat can you get into the tire. In a Miata that only weighs 2000lbs, you're going to have a hell of a time getting some of the larger tires up to temp for a time attack session.
I know a NC DP miata running autocross that seems to get enough heat in 23.5X11 R16 R75 compund over 60 second runs to be favord for a national championship. because of 10" wide wheels and 2.0L displacement minimum weight is ~2200 lbs for the class. car needs ~180 lbs of ballast to met weight.

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Bbundy, do you have any idea on how much a 16x12 or 16x11 rim would be from the companies you listed above? I like the CCW Classic 4 design and I have a friend with a vette with CCW's he races with and they are light and great quality. They price them at $625 a piece for the 16's and that's pretty steep but I know you get what you pay for. I was just curious if you had any personal experience or knew anyone that dealt with the companies you listed on qulity and pricing.

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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
But does anyone have any solid info at what point/power level it would become questionable?
No one can answer that. Finding the fastest tire size is an exercise in optimization and will depend on the track, the car setup, the driver, and the weather conditions.

And as much as I hate to disagree with Sav, bigger is not always better. I personally know plenty of Corvette guys that have shaved time by reducing their tire sizes.
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