What I was kinda getting at was that pushing the limits, to see where they are - esp in where you're against the clock (ave speeds are faster than in a race, like you're the leader out front - yes?), one will enevitably push too hard and find the the limit - at what consequences who knows - that's why I have a Hans. And our home track, Barber, is NOT a forgiving track - OP knows, and I'm glad he didn't find the armco - ample run-off in all corners? I wish...

Especially the back side of the track. Is it turn 12 that you turn in blind due to an elevation change? Come out of 13 with too much and you might be f***ed going into 14. here is a nice interactive map with photos.

http://www.barbermotorsports.com/indy/flash-map.php

https://www.miataturbo.net/picture.p...pictureid=1414

Bryan, where do you find the PBOC requirements for DE events? Everything i have found shows that i should be able to run my car with that group. I couldn't race with them, but I think I can do HPDEs

From the corner workers POV, there are 17 turns - the clubs just count 15 in all -

http://www.altiusdirectory.com/uploa...sportsPark.png

Top of 4, kink out at 10 and top of 12 are BAD places to lose it - you'll be eating rubber from the tire walls on the inside most likely - that's why they're there. EVERY weekend, someone loses it at the Top of 4 and 12 driving into the inside walls. Usually high HP cars unloading in a turn at the crest of the hill. At least you won't have to pay for the hitting the tire wall - unless you screw up the armco behind. Barber will charge you clean-up fees for spitting on the ground if caught.... PM send on who to contact @ PBOC.

Lucky Lotus out of T10 - but his error was not driving it straight out when he got on the grass


And here's the pros - skip to 2:18 - not much forgiveness at that speed - that's a hard hit too