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aidandj 07-04-2015 07:46 PM

What about getting them actually valved right. Isn't what's cool about xidas/feals etc is the R&d behind the valving and everything?

90civichhb 07-04-2015 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1246530)
What about getting them actually valved right. Isn't what's cool about xidas/feals etc is the R&d behind the valving and everything?

Yeah, I am sure that is also part of the cost. I will probably end up doing Koni Race in the front, Yellows in the rear, 700/400 Ground Control setup. For ~$1300 I think that would carry me pretty far. Probably going to be really harsh on the road though. Atleast this way I could get some new Dunlops with the money I have left over.

Leafy 07-04-2015 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1246530)
What about getting them actually valved right. Isn't what's cool about xidas/feals etc is the R&d behind the valving and everything?

Yes, but the thing is, with circle track shocks I've seen rebuild costs in the 20's of dollars range, vs 150 for AST. You can have some fun playing mad scientist to get them just right at that kind of money without thinking about the money too hard for that price.

aidandj 07-04-2015 10:17 PM

75 was quoted earlier in the thread that was still a lot. We should get a bunch of people to pick the same shock and then all try different valvings. Crowdfunded development lol.

90civichhb 07-05-2015 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1246541)
75 was quoted earlier in the thread that was still a lot. We should get a bunch of people to pick the same shock and then all try different valvings. Crowdfunded development lol.

That was a big shop out in Memphis. If I put more time into networking I am sure I could find it cheaper, but how trustworthy could be an issue.

What are the cheapest aluminum bodied coilovers for the Miata?

aidandj 07-05-2015 10:24 AM

Feal?

ThePass 07-05-2015 12:12 PM

Well no, the *cheapest* aluminum bodied shocks, if you wanted to just gut them for a DIY project would be some knock-off taiwanese stuff.

The Feal range offers a very affordable pricepoint for aluminum monotube shocks built in the USA with extended tophats, custom valving and your choice of any spring rates out of the box. Lots of value, but certainly there are cheaper options if you want to forego some of those features (I wouldn't).

$75/corner for a revalve by people who know what they are doing and more importantly, can translate what you are asking for in layman's/driver's terms into valving changes to accomplish what you want is quite reasonable. Consider that even $75 is half the price that some of the big names charge.

-Ryan

Rallas 07-07-2015 12:57 PM

Having tried 4 different shock setups on my car, the last being revalved Bilstein with an initial budget of $1200-1500 I can tell you that you are much better off getting something that already has the R&D done. You are not going to get lucky and just magically end up with a balanced and well perfoming setup. There are just too many variables involved with valving, spring selection, travels, top hats, tender springs, bushings/bearings ect. The guys that can do the circle track valving for cheaper are pro's at circle track tuning which has a different set of requirements than roadcorse or autocross tuning.

I know little about the Feals, but they sound unbeatable at that price point. If you are serious about performance and long time use (can grow from autocross to roadcorse) go Xida. I wish I did! I have spent more money trying different things on a re-valved DIY setup that I could have paid for Xida's and I am sure I do not have 90% the performance that they do.


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