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m2cupcar 10-13-2010 01:39 PM

what you're up against
 
I thought this video did a good job of illustrating the difference between a front running, high dollar SM and a mid or back pack car- the details.
http://vimeo.com/15788586
[vimeo]15788586[/vimeo] ;)

aug 10-13-2010 01:44 PM

Sweet jesus

ZX-Tex 10-13-2010 02:57 PM

The most expensive piniatas on the planet. It is crazy what the 'pro' SM built motors go for. One could build a really nice turbo engine, with the turbo, for what they cost. No offense to SM. It is a good example of what the expense of a racing series, even a series designed for cheap racing, can escalate to.

m2cupcar 10-13-2010 03:04 PM

I remember when they were selling turn key SMs for $20k and "we" were comparing them to the Panoz series cars that were selling for just under that- ready to go. Those were full tube frame purpose built racers that used affordable mustang components and were coming with freshened cobra engines.

RavynX 10-13-2010 03:04 PM

Crazy 0_o

Splitime 10-13-2010 03:05 PM

Ceramic bearings?

Details :p

shuiend 10-13-2010 03:07 PM

Yes Where do we buy those at?

m2cupcar 10-13-2010 03:14 PM

That's Jim Daniel's video, so I'm sure he could sell you some. You can contact on specmiata.com.

turotufas 10-13-2010 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 642656)
It is a good example of what the expense of a racing series, even a series designed for cheap racing, can escalate to.

Well said.

02semiata 10-13-2010 03:54 PM

Do want

ZX-Tex 10-13-2010 03:57 PM

The CMRA has somehow been dodging this escalation for years. A good rider with good racing skills can spend $5K (or less) on a used. mostly stock track bike and still blow away a lot of people on superior machinery. I think it is mostly due to the relatively high demands on skill versus equipment, not to mention a touch of craziness.

Sorry, thread jack.

ScottFW 10-13-2010 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by zx-tex (Post 642656)
it is a good example of what the expense of a racing series, even a series designed for cheap racing, can escalate to if you don't have claimer rules to limit the $6k+ mostly-stock motor BS.

ftfy

kaisersoze 10-13-2010 07:45 PM

REM isotropic superfinish. surface metal treatment
REM surface engineering is the company the developed it.
I am not sure if it is as good as ceramic bearings or not

miatamania 10-13-2010 07:53 PM

I can gets where?

kaisersoze 10-13-2010 08:20 PM

You would probably have to buy new bearings and then contact REM to have them treated and then repack the hubs yourself. I don't know if anyone is offering prebuilt You might want to contact REM first because different bearings have different metalurgy and I don't know if their process is compatible with all metals
http://www.remchem.com/page3-38/ISFServices

jacob300zx 10-13-2010 08:22 PM

They are repacked with high quality grease like redline.

http://www.appliedracingtechnology.com/aboutus.php

hustler 10-13-2010 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by jacob300zx (Post 642801)
They are repacked with high quality grease like redline.

http://www.appliedracingtechnology.com/aboutus.php

My ART bearings didn't spin like that...no more free spinning than the "slow" one on the video.


BTW, AMSoil 2000 > Redline

hustler 10-13-2010 08:57 PM

this is pretty damn impressive too:
http://vimeo.com/14211666

sjmarcy 10-13-2010 09:39 PM

It's not just bearings and grease, low drag bearing seals cut drag too. They've been running fancy bits for years. It's not hard at all to load in fancy grease, the stock stuff is not intended for track usage. If you've run into wheel bearing life issues that alone helps immensely.

BTW you can measure net rolling resistance of an entire car via simple low speed coast down tests.

jacob300zx 10-13-2010 09:46 PM

Nice vid, Jims lines sucked.


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