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phocup 03-30-2019 09:27 PM

Wow. Thanks for the detailed response! The gauge I have is a so it doesn't specify what type of sensor it uses. I'll need to dig a big deeper.

afm 03-30-2019 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by phocup (Post 1528949)
Wow. Thanks for the detailed response! The gauge I have is a cheap Amazon unit so it doesn't specify what type of sensor it uses. I'll need to dig a big deeper.

Given that it has the same form factor and connector as all the myriad GM/Honeywell/etc automotive pressure sensors (a small sensor with a round 3-pin Metri Pack 150 connector), it's almost certainly 0-5V ratiometric.

Bronson M 03-31-2019 06:51 PM

I've run this because I like to live dangerously:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pressure-Tr...frcectupt=true

I learned that a walbro 255 was too much for the stock NB FPR and would rock up to 75 psi at idle and drop as PW increased. Walbro 190 didn't have this bad habit, and supported 650cc injectors just fine to 80% duty cycle.

Savington 04-01-2019 02:17 PM

Walbro 190 will support four 650cc injectors at ~100%DC even at 65psi of rail pressure. I'm pretty sure Rover still has one, left over from when the car was first built in 2010.

Bronson M 04-01-2019 02:19 PM

Sorry, didn't mean that was the limit of the pump, just that I can verify that it supports my fueling needs which is 650's @ 80%.

hf-mx5t 04-16-2019 02:03 AM

im logging fuel and oil pressure using cheap ebay 150psi sensors, works really well.

stevos555 09-04-2019 09:08 PM

Hf-mx5t , do you happen to know the voltage on your gauges .5-4.5vdc?

hf-mx5t 09-08-2019 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by stevos555 (Post 1547916)
Hf-mx5t , do you happen to know the voltage on your gauges .5-4.5vdc?

Yeah. thats correct. standard Ebay cheapo sensors, but they work fine, ive also added a failsafe in the ECU to check if fuel pressure follows boostpressure

stevos555 09-08-2019 07:55 PM

Did the sender come with a plug and pins? I just checked the ebay listing and looks like sensor only.

Ted75zcar 09-08-2019 10:18 PM

The ebay transducers come with pigtails, but I have found them to be unsuitable for automotive use. I have logging for many different pressures on my car, almost every one of the pigtails that came with the transducers has failed.

There are decent options available, search for 904-222, get a pigtail with at least 20AWG wire.

stevos555 09-08-2019 10:28 PM

https://express.google.com/u/0/produ...BoCkFEQAvD_BwE

this should work for fuel also. Do you have ability for logging oil pressure ?

Ted75zcar 09-08-2019 10:32 PM

I log everything. I log oil pressure in 3 locations. Fuel pressure in 2. I log air pressure in 7 locations and EGP. The AEM sensors are nice, but I have had 2 of them fail on me over the years.

stevos555 09-08-2019 10:38 PM

what's the setup in Ms3 for logging the oil and fuel ? I just got my MS3 PNP Pro for a 97. If you don't mind sharing that would be great.

Ted75zcar 09-08-2019 10:41 PM

I have 27 ADC channels via 3 tinyIOx modules connected to the CANBUS. MS3 has very few spare analog channels.

muoto 07-13-2021 04:25 AM

(I'm gonna loan this thread)

Can anyone help me? I'm having strange fuel pressure drops at track but only after 10min of hard driving. If I do one cooldown lap, pressure is back to normal.
Things I tested so far:
-New AN6 teflon fuel lines
-three (3) different fuel pumps (currently using AEM 400lph)
-three different fuel pump "intake filter socks" (currently using awesome Holley Hydramat)
-two different engines+turbos. No difference If I have 400whp or 500whp setup
-Temps looks ok. (fuel temp, coolant temp and oil temp)
-didn't find any leaks in FPR vacuum hoses

Only parts left that I haven't change is OEM fuel filter(its new) and oldschool Begi Fuel pressure reg. (UFO looking big thing). With 26psi boost pressure that I run, my fuel pressure stays around 600kpa (87psi) at the begin and after 10min in track I lost half of that pressure.....And nothing in temps change that much....

Arca_ex 07-13-2021 04:35 AM

Why are you using sky high fuel pressures? Set base pressure to 43.5 psi and use properly sized injectors. With 26 pounds of boost you should see about 69.5 psi at the rail at full boost with a proper rising rate FPR. If you've already done everything else and your fuel temp is not getting out of control then replace the FPR and see what happens.

muoto 07-13-2021 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1604230)
Why are you using sky high fuel pressures?

I forgot to mention that. I run E85 and my injectors are EV14 1300cc. I need that high pressure to maintain inj. duty cycles in ok levels (75%). Base pressure is 43psi

curly 07-13-2021 09:11 AM

I would look into a new FPR. Is the current not a 1:1?

muoto 07-13-2021 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1604252)
I would look into a new FPR. Is the current not a 1:1?

I think that is the right way. That old Begi FPR unit is ~15 years old now (you can change the ratio with it).
I have new Fuelab FPR already waiting for last AN fittings, I'm sure that will work better...

j_man 07-16-2021 02:46 AM

You didn't mention anything about wiring. Don't tell me you're running the stock fuel pump wiring and the stock fuel pump relay.


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