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tomiboy 02-28-2013 10:54 AM

Xidas, what spring rate?
 
What spring rates do you recommend?

2002 SE Miata with all accessories, 6 speed, torsen, ABS, PW, PDL, etc
VVT engine is stock,
I’m guessing 2,650# with driver
15” x 9’ 6ULs
225 RS3s (anticipate moving to NT -01s when I get faster)
Energy suspension bushings going on with coil overs
As far as driving experience I’d say I am a fast beginner (about 7-8 track days)
RB 1 1/8” hollow front bar with 949 end links and new poly bushings, and the RB block thingy to stiffen things up
MSM 14 mm bar and 949 endlinks and poly bushings to go on w/coil overs
Hard dog hard core DD bar with harness bar
I also have Hard dog door bars not installed yet
At the track I remove the spare and the passenger seat for weight reduction
My wife still likes to drive it in the summer, but if it gets to unbearable maybe I’ll have to get her something else to drive

Thanks!

hustler 02-28-2013 11:00 AM

700/400 or nothing at all. I have 600/400 on my daily and 800/500 on my track car.

z31maniac 02-28-2013 11:03 AM

It would be a terrible idea to call the guy who sells them, tell him your current setup and goals, and ask his advice.

tomiboy 02-28-2013 11:36 AM

I've actually emailed him, but have yet to hear back. But thanks! I'm guessing his wife doesn't drive his cars on the street much. I was hoping to hear some experiences from those of you who's significant others have. My thought was 700/400, but it's nice to get some opinions

hustler 02-28-2013 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 984113)
I've actually emailed him, but have yet to hear back. But thanks! I'm guessing his wife doesn't drive his cars on the street much. I was hoping to hear some experiences from those of you who's significant others have. My thought was 700/400, but it's nice to get some opinions

My GF has never once bitched about either car being rough and she drives a Cherokee.

18psi 02-28-2013 11:47 AM

Find someone with xidas locally and get a ride. Go from there.

I been trying to do that myself with no luck tho :(

z31maniac 02-28-2013 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 984113)
I've actually emailed him, but have yet to hear back. But thanks! I'm guessing his wife doesn't drive his cars on the street much. I was hoping to hear some experiences from those of you who's significant others have. My thought was 700/400, but it's nice to get some opinions

My experience in the E30 world was as long as you have a quality damper (which ASTs are) that are valved for the car/spring rate, you will be amazed the spring rates you can get away with.

On my E30 with custom vavled Koni's I ran 550/750 (mac strut front, semi-trailing arm rear) and the wife never complained of ride quality even on 40 series tires on 17s.

Leafy 02-28-2013 12:29 PM

When you call emillio he's most likely going to tell you 700/400 since you drive hard and are on street tires.

monkeywinky 02-28-2013 12:30 PM

I have 700/400, gf doesn't complain. her car is a camry

tomiboy 02-28-2013 12:33 PM

Looks like 700/400 is it. And they are in stock!

Leafy 02-28-2013 12:39 PM

Call and make sure they're actually in stock. I ordered last year at this time and the website said they were in, I didnt get them until like 3 events into the season (beginning or april/end of may) because everyone in the world ordered them at the same time and Emillio just couldnt get them made up fast enough. And at the same time 700lb springs went on national back order with hyperco, eibach, and sprint so I ended up getting 650s.

But this is what happens with small suppliers making you one of the best suspension you can buy for a miata. It was worth the wait, hassle, and price.

tomiboy 02-28-2013 01:19 PM

It's done! Emilio is getting an order in tomorrow AM. I ordered a couple of minutes ago. 700/400 dual springs. Chicago area weather should improve soon and I want to get them in with my ES poly bushings, my Hard dog door bars, and MSM rear sway before the HPDEs start around here.

NotBoostedYet 02-28-2013 08:21 PM

The ride quality even at 700/400 is awesome. And the performance at the track is insane.

natedawg 02-28-2013 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 984169)
It's done! Emilio is getting an order in tomorrow AM. I ordered a couple of minutes ago. 700/400 dual springs. Chicago area weather should improve soon and I want to get them in with my ES poly bushings, my Hard dog door bars, and MSM rear sway before the HPDEs start around here.

nice man I'm in Plainfield and planning to pickup a set next year for my nb. I'd love to see how the 700/400 ride in your car sometime.

Mobius 02-28-2013 11:37 PM

700/400 is win. Even for fat cars like ours.

hustler 03-01-2013 12:02 AM

Shits cray as fuck, ya'll.

L2 Tuning 03-03-2013 10:35 PM

Emilio's description says 700/400 for most cars...and 800/500 for a track only car (R-comps and aero)

emilio700 03-04-2013 12:15 PM

Emilio.

tomiboy 03-04-2013 02:49 PM

:giggle:We can't start calling you Emmi?

emilio700 03-04-2013 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 985579)
:giggle:We can't start calling you Emmi?

Moderator named Emmi on mazdaroadster.net might not appreciate that.


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