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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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http://www.trackdogracing.com/websit.../TDR-90MGR.htm


EXPENSIVE at $1200, but could be cool to duplicate. Uses a 16x8x3 intercooler with pipes facing up.

I'm surprised that the hood closes w/o issue. Also curious as to where the a/c dryer is...
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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The kit uses fabbed radiator brackets that both lowers and tilts the radiator back toward the engine to get the clearance for the IC piping.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Wow...Thats expensive.....
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Because they tilt the radiator back the ac dryer is in the stock location. Look at the base the headlights and where the radiator is in relation. Then look at a Miata that hasn't had the radiator tilted. It would make it hard to change the belts.
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Spoke with Gary @ TDR about the kit...
The price includes everything including 3 new diverter panels and the radiator top panel. The a/c dryer bracket is cut and the dryer is moved to clearance the throttle side pipe. The radiator itself is lowered 1/2" by hogging out its brackets, and is also tilted towards the motor some. In stock form the radiator is slightly tilted forward, with this mod the radiator is vertical. The kit also includes the intake pipes.

It's actually a great solution... just wish it was half price...
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Eh I was completely wrong. It really looks further back then being vertical though.
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Other than moving the rad and the AC bracketry there are no modifications to the hood or the car? With out AC this should be pretty easy to duplicate I would think. Especially with a Starion I/C.
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no mods to body. neat solution.
Wish I still had that starion intercooler. ohs wells.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Even though this is for greddy folks, i have a bookmark to a guy who did pretty much this exact mod for his NB with no mods to the body besides hogging out the rad brackets.
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Link please.
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I don't think it would be difficult. There's a lot of space under the rad for lowering it.
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The DIY over the top setups I've seen have lowered the rad and either made notches in the hood or the body. Maybe they were using larger pipe, I think the TDR setup uses 2".
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Ben lowered then tilted his radiator way on back. I don't think he made any modifications to his body at all. But he did loose the holder for the hood prop.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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I'll have to get on my home computer to get that link, it was a pretty good looking setup though. I'll try to get it tonight.
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I've heard two arguments on radiator (heat exchangers) tilting in reference to oncoming air flow. One says it improves efficiency if it puts more of the surface area in the face of oncoming air. The other says it's worse because the air can't flow through the rad since the air has to be diverted to meet the angle of passage, and cause a greater turbulence at the surface.
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Thats nice, too bad its so much money
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Yea...Way too much...But I mean...If you supply it, someone will buy it.
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Originally Posted by Slidin'Miata916
Yea...Way too much...But I mean...If you supply it, someone will buy it.
Dude you have to stop posting while hitting the pipe.
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lol
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http://www.trackdogracing.com/inst/9...percharger.htm

There is some cutting of the radiator crossmember.



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