Notices
Engine Performance This section is for discussion on all engine building related questions.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: KPower

Can a crankshaft balance be checked?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 27, 2018 | 03:53 PM
  #1  
Bleeh's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newb
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 12
Total Cats: -1
From: Bay area
Default Can a crankshaft balance be checked?

I am fully worthy of the abuse I am about to receive.


I was sold a crankshaft, pistons, rods (etc) as an abandoned project. I was told it had been balanced.- I bought if from a very good friend of a very good friend, I was hesitant but I trust people too easily.

I have now got very good reason that the machine work on the crankshaft was never done.

If I was to take it to a shop, is it possible to have the balance checked without going through the entire rebalancing process ?
Old Nov 27, 2018 | 04:00 PM
  #2  
matrussell122's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,861
Total Cats: 517
From: Seattle
Default

Yes it can be checked but at that point you should balance it anyways. Why would you want a crank that you know is out of balance.
Old Nov 27, 2018 | 04:30 PM
  #3  
hi_im_sean's Avatar
SadFab CEO
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,560
Total Cats: 1,143
From: your mom's house phoenix, AZ
Default

Its pretty obvious if it has been done since it was last used. There will be holes drilled that will have no oil staining, varnish, etc.

Checking balance is about 75% of the work of just balancing it. Once its all mounted in the machine and checked, all they do is remove or add weight and recheck it.
Old Nov 27, 2018 | 09:04 PM
  #4  
Bleeh's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newb
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 12
Total Cats: -1
From: Bay area
Default

The "Checking balance is about 75% of the work of just balancing it" is what I seemed to get the impression of, I was just double checking.

Thanks guys.
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 09:10 AM
  #5  
Madjak's Avatar
ʎpunq qoq
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 604
Total Cats: 202
From: Western Australia
Default

I balanced my own lightened crank, more to see how close I could get it and to reduce the time for the machine shop to take off metal. I used 4x low friction ball bearings bolted to some spare angle and spun the crank gently by hand to find the heaviest side.

The machine shop said it was within a few grams and only needed a couple of small tweaks more to balance each end rather than overall.

Whilst doing my lightened crank I spun up a few spare cranks I had on the shelf. I was surprised to find that one was slightly bent at no4 main bearing and the other two I could find a heavy side. So the 10 mins to make it was worth the time.

It's also quite fun to spin them to a few thousand rpm on the bench with a power drill. They really hum along at those speeds... imagine 9k plus!


Old Nov 28, 2018 | 09:34 AM
  #6  
hi_im_sean's Avatar
SadFab CEO
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,560
Total Cats: 1,143
From: your mom's house phoenix, AZ
Default

You're an animal.
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 12:47 PM
  #7  
ryansmoneypit's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,398
Total Cats: 458
From: A cave in Va
Default

whycome nobody grinds the weights into an aero shape? seems like a no brainer.
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 02:12 PM
  #8  
themonkeyman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 697
Total Cats: 91
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
whycome nobody grinds the weights into an aero shape? seems like a no brainer.
Pretty common actually, its called 'bull nosing' and 'knife edging.' Front gets a rounded bull nose shape, trailing edge gets sharpened, so cross section looks like a wing.
Old Nov 28, 2018 | 05:24 PM
  #9  
Madjak's Avatar
ʎpunq qoq
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 604
Total Cats: 202
From: Western Australia
Default

I'm not sure if reducing the aero drag on a crank actually helps much once you account for the rods and pistons. The mix of air and oil in the crank case would be mashed up into a mess swirling all over the place and pulsing from front to back pumped by the pistons. So there would be no clean airflow for it to spin through. I think reducing frontal area should help a bit plus it drops weight... but machining and balancing teardrop counterweights would be hard to justify.

Its probably easier to just get rid of the air altogether by pulling a vacuum with a dry sump setup.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
LimblessNinja77
Engine Performance
16
Sep 26, 2017 02:36 PM
psyber_0ptix
Engine Performance
21
Oct 2, 2014 08:25 PM
Jemiata
Engine Performance
6
Jan 30, 2013 12:27 AM
j-po
Engine Performance
19
Aug 23, 2010 05:26 PM
RotorNutFD3S
Engine Performance
16
Apr 9, 2009 02:49 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:28 AM.