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tomiboy 08-05-2015 11:06 AM

>10 PSI on Rotrex track driven NB2s
 
Is anyone running more than 10 PSI on their Rotrex 2001 plus track car? If so any issues when doing track days with our 10:1 compression and detonation?

cyotani 08-05-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1254518)
Is anyone running more than 10 PSI on their Rotrex 2001 plus track car? If so any issues when doing track days with our 10:1 compression and detonation?

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tomiboy 08-05-2015 03:15 PM

I am doing that with a AEM FIC, but concerned going up to 12 PSI (with 75 mm pulley)might be a bit too much for track days since the NB2 engine is 10:1 compression

Pist0n 10-01-2015 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1254591)
I am doing that with a AEM FIC, but concerned going up to 12 PSI (with 75 mm pulley)might be a bit too much for track days since the NB2 engine is 10:1 compression

I have an NB2 engine with the AEM FIC running 10psi, so granted, this is not an apples to apples conversation because of two less psi, but my cars has 5k+ track only miles and so far...so good.

concealer404 10-01-2015 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1254591)
I am doing that with a AEM FIC, but concerned going up to 12 PSI (with 75 mm pulley)might be a bit too much for track days since the NB2 engine is 10:1 compression

NB2 engine will make just as much power as the earlier motors. You just might have to run less timing than them.

If you're concerned about the extra 2psi, pull some timing out.

tomiboy 10-01-2015 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Pist0n (Post 1271248)
I have an NB2 engine with the AEM FIC running 10psi, so granted, this is not an apples to apples conversation because of two less psi, but my cars has 5k+ track only miles and so far...so good.

That's where I'm at now ....10 PSI. I also have many track miles without issues. Just don't want to have any if I raise the boost

Pist0n 10-01-2015 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1271275)
That's where I'm at now ....10 PSI. I also have many track miles without issues. Just don't want to have any if I raise the boost

Fair enough! Please keep the thread (me!) updated as I feel 10 PSI feels sufficient for now, however, I do not think a substantial amount of time has ever passed without me wondering if I could squeeze any more power reliably out of a setup.

How do you like the AEM FIC for as far as tuning? I still have a slight idle issue and have read that the Megasquirt may rectify this situation.

patsmx5 10-01-2015 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1254518)
Is anyone running more than 10 PSI on their Rotrex 2001 plus track car? If so any issues when doing track days with our 10:1 compression and detonation?

I ran 22 PSI on 10.5:1 with my whipple. With water injection. Now run 9:1 and more boost but no WI but more E85.

Easy button for your setup is more octane.

tomiboy 10-01-2015 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1271316)
I ran 22 PSI on 10.5:1 with my whipple. With water injection. Now run 9:1 and more boost but no WI but more E85.

Easy button for your setup is more octane.

I've been contemplating E85

patsmx5 10-01-2015 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1271327)
I've been contemplating E85

I daily my miata, and I have to drive about 20-25min to the closest E85 station. But other than that, totally worth it. If you track the car, it's a good idea. Will keep that motor from ever detonating and let you run more boost too. Win/win.

patsmx5 10-01-2015 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1271327)
I've been contemplating E85

Also I gotta say Vlad told me to do it for years, and I didn't listen. I should have. I'm planning to buy a few jugs to store E85 in so I can refuel the car at home to cut down on my number of trips to the E85 station.

tomiboy 10-01-2015 04:56 PM

Not only do I have a number of E85 stations around my home, but the gas station we fill up at, next to the track I frequent, has it also

Pist0n 10-01-2015 05:03 PM

Unless things change by the time I want to increase the boost, at the moment there are zero public E85 fueling stations in Connecticut.

patsmx5 10-01-2015 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1271361)
Not only do I have a number of E85 stations around my home, but the gas station we fill up at next to the track I frequent has it also

Nice. Well there's your answer! Wish I was in your situation.

tomiboy 10-02-2015 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Pist0n (Post 1271280)
Fair enough! Please keep the thread (me!) updated as I feel 10 PSI feels sufficient for now, however, I do not think a substantial amount of time has ever passed without me wondering if I could squeeze any more power reliably out of a setup.

How do you like the AEM FIC for as far as tuning? I still have a slight idle issue and have read that the Megasquirt may rectify this situation.

I didn't tune the FIC myself. I just did data logs and Ken Hill tuned it via emails. It runs like stock. I wanted to maintain the ability to pass our emission testing. You an pick them up used for $150. You also need a Boomslang harness

dasting 10-02-2015 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1271361)
Not only do I have a number of E85 stations around my home, but the gas station we fill up at, next to the track I frequent, has it also

You probably know this, but just to state the obvious, you can't just go and fill up with E85 and call it a day, you need to retune for it.

tomiboy 10-02-2015 04:16 PM

and bigger injectors

dasting 10-02-2015 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by tomiboy (Post 1271612)
and bigger injectors

Oh yeah, hadn't looked at your signature. Definitely bigger injectors too. Cheers.


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