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Si Speed 317 09-01-2010 11:46 AM

1991 with JR SC. 70,000 original miles on motor - worth it?
 
I found a clean 1991 miata with a Jackson Racing supercharger. Comes with the intake, Jackson Racing header, cat-back (I forget the brand), and a few other tiny goodies. He said he's running 9psi non-intercooled from the original 5psi (went with a smaller pulley). He was asking 5k but the top will need to be replaced soon, so he said 4200. The hood/trunk have walnut damage from a tree, but that's aside from the point. This has been supercharged since 94, always ran synthetic IIRC, and the motor hasn't been rebuilt. Also, it's not a SNC vin number, so that's a plus. I'm curious as to what kind of power this is putting down, and if it's reliable/worth the purchase.

Braineack 09-01-2010 11:48 AM

probably like 130rwhp.

Si Speed 317 09-01-2010 11:50 AM

Would that increase if I go the intercooled route?

Braineack 09-01-2010 11:51 AM

it takes an mp62 with 16psi and e85 to make 190rwhp on a 1.6L SCer setup...

buy it, sell the SC and then turbo it properly ;)

Si Speed 317 09-01-2010 11:52 AM

Hmmm... turboing (as I have been told) is quite the hassle to tune though.. I would love to go the GT28 route though.

levnubhin 09-01-2010 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 624382)
it takes an mp62 with 16psi and e85 to make 190rwhp on a 1.6L SCer setup...

buy it, sell the SC and then turbo it properly ;)

this!


Originally Posted by Si Speed 317 (Post 624385)
Hmmm... turboing (as I have been told) is quite the hassle to tune though.. I would love to go the GT28 route though.

No
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Stein 09-01-2010 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Si Speed 317 (Post 624385)
Hmmm... turboing (as I have been told) is quite the hassle to tune though.. I would love to go the GT28 route though.

Please explain why adding more air via a turbo is any different tuning than adding more air via a SC.

I'll wait.

jeff_man 09-01-2010 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 624382)
it takes an mp62 with 16psi and e85 to make 190rwhp on a 1.6L SCer setup...

buy it, sell the SC and then turbo it properly ;)

no it takes a real ecu and not a piggy back.

anything sc is worthless on this site to all these turbo guy unless your me =D

buffon01 09-01-2010 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 624420)
No

So easy, a caveman can do it.


Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 624438)
no it takes a real ecu and not a piggy back.

anything sc is worthless on this site to all these turbo guy unless your me =D

That's cause you blow Hustler.

Braineack 09-01-2010 01:59 PM

I just remember it took soflarick a shit ton of effort to break 170rwhp with his jrsc on a 1.8L...IIRC he was on e-manage blue

buffon01 09-01-2010 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 624442)
I just remember it took soflarick a shit ton of effort to break 170rwhp with his jrsc on a 1.8L...IIRC he was on e-manage blue

Didn't he end up with an S4?

Braineack 09-01-2010 02:13 PM

yeah hes running a 2871 setup now.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=211180

jeff_man 09-01-2010 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 624442)
IIRC he was on e-manage blue


Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 624438)
no it takes a real ecu and not a piggy back.

what did i say about piggy backs? granted it's more ecu then any other piggy back but still a piggy back.


Originally Posted by Si Speed 317 (Post 624385)
Hmmm... turboing (as I have been told) is quite the hassle to tune though.. I would love to go the GT28 route though.

sc is harder to turn at idle but after that same as a turbo

UI Vandal 09-26-2010 09:34 PM

Do it right, go turbo from the start. Either pick up that car (assuming it has decent suspension, wheels/tires, etc) or find another. Plus, if you are looking to make higher power...that rear end might not be up to the challenge. This is coming form a guy that has a 1.8 and a M45...making a earth shattering 150 whp. There are better deals out there.


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