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Good luck with this and let me know if you decide to sell your M45

chiefmg

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I will be selling it once I get this setup installed.

Okay, we're getting some good information here. I appreciate everyone's contribution. It seems like with the outlet manifold (as with many things) it will come down to personal preference. I'll see how it performs for me with the BRP mani before making a decision on this. Unless someone has the means and desire to do some instrumented testing for us all...

While we have the ball rolling, what are some thoughts on exhaust? Currently I have an '01+ factory header, factory midpipe and Brainstorm dual axleback. I have read differing opinions on a 4-2-1 header with a supercharger (which seems to be the only thing that will fit with a hotside), and on midpipes as well. I am leaning towards keeping the header I have and adding a 2.5" midpipe arrangement. The muffler is staying as I like the sound.

vehicular

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1.) If anybody is interested, I have an old BRP MP62 kit for a 1.8 that will be for sale as soon as it quits raining long enough to take a few pictures of it.

2.) Endyn always pushed big tube, short runner 4-1 headers with their high hp Honda SC kits. I'm switching to a cold side kit, so I grabbed a Boig 4-1 from a local guy. I'm going to replace the straight 2.25" collector with a 7deg 2.25-3" divergent nozzle, and a full 3" exhaust. A pulleyed up blower will handle all the low end you could want, so you really just need to worry about getting the exhaust gas OUT. Low end scavenging should take a back seat to top end.

stratosteve

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In for idle results on MS!

As was already stated, that black box looks like my old BRP PNP module (paperweight).

chiefmg

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The 'charger showed up at the house today, too bad I'm about 6,000 miles away.

I'm planning on getting some RX-8 injectors (if I can find a good used set for a reasonable price), that should give me what I need on the fuel side. Waiting on Reverant's GB for the enhanced MS. That should set me up pretty well for when I do get home, I will just have to get a set of COPs to complete everything I want to have.

RunninOnEmpty

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When you get that bracket re-welded, look into some temporary piping for a crossover tube between the charger and the intake manifold, like stock configuration. It'll help you with your initial understanding of idle with an SC, setting up your tuning, and how the IC will impact it later on. The IC install is sort of a PITA compared to the SC install.

There were never any instructions for the IC install, but I have a bunch of old pics. Let me know if you want any.

chiefmg

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Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on that. The guy I bought it from took pictures and did a write-up when he removed it, and I was able to find a set of old installation instructions from BRP. I don't think the mechanical aspect is going to be much different from my M45, I've already had it off to replace the coupler and oil.

chiefmg

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Okay time for an injector question. I need to figure out what size I want to get so I can tell Reverant the size for his MS. From my research and your guidance to date, a set of 440cc (approximately) units will be sufficient for my needs of 200 whp at 10 psi. Note that my car already has an upgraded fuel pump in place (from what I can find out it's the Walbro 255 sold by Jackson Racing, I am going to get in touch with the original owner to see if he remembers anything specific about it such as does it have the restrictor pill to increase discharge pressure). Also from what I have gathered, a set of larger EV14 type injectors will handle idling just fine. That being the case and since I have to get some anyway, I am thinking about going with a set of 550cc injectors. My question is, do injectors care which part of their duty cycle they are operating in or not? I know most mechanical parts have a sweet spot that they work best in, and given my car will be spending the majority of its time just driving around I can't see having a part that isn't happy, if you get my drift.

chiefmg

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Finally made it home. Checked out my 'charger kit, looks very nice. Since I now have access to Internet that doesn't fall on its face, I did a little research and decided to go ahead with the EV14 550cc injectors. I've been ordering other bits and pieces today so that I'm ready once Reverant starts sending out the enhanced MS units. I won't post more here until I get things up and running with the bigger unit.

chiefmg

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Well it took a while but I finally got all the bits and pieces. Started installing everything this past Monday. Few hiccups with the install (missing fasteners etc) and I decided to go ahead and replace a few things while the car was down (carpet and wiring harness that was hacked up for the M45 install, both of which required removal of the dash). The guy I bought the MP62 from didn't send me any info and as I got into things I found out the old instructions I found online weren't the best for what I have. In any event, I have the 'charger installed but the autotensioner is hitting the power steering adjuster nut. The PO had it on his car with PS so I'm waiting to see if he has any pictures showing his setup so I can see what I need to do. Also, the intercooler is in place but I don't know how the setback brackets for the factory radiator brackets go on. I could throw them on but there are side plates and other bits that need to go on, and with the tight quarters in there I really only want to do this once. Was trying to have it done to drive to Mid-Ohio for the race this weekend but that won't happen.

RunninOnEmpty

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If you have a pic of your setup, post it. The Power Steering on my kit have a few pillow blocks to replace, but there's a metal "tongue" with a bolt sticking up. In the BRP kits, you just take some channel lock pliers and bend it up out of the way.

It's better that you didn't rush the install, it needs a little shakedown after it's complete.

When installing the main supercharger bracket, there's one bolt that connects the front of the bracket, just above the 1st runner. It takes a bit of patience, but it's important to get that nut/bolt tightened just right at the right length, else you can get a nasty vibration/buzz around the 3k-3500 rpm area.

Once installed, I'd also have someone give the throttle a couple of tests and you can make sure the belt's tracking properly. Last thing you want is for the belt to jump a rib at the track. Once it's all lined up, you're pretty much good to go.

chiefmg

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I've waited this long to get it in, a little longer won't kill me! I don't rush things as I know it always ends up biting someone somewhere.

Are you talking about the bolt that was used to hold on the engine lift bracket? In the instructions I found it says to back that out until it contacts the backside of the 'charger bracket, that's what I've done.

I greatly appreciate your input, hopefully in the future someone will find this and have their questions answered.

chiefmg

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It's taken a little longer than I had planned due to having a bunch of little things I had to source. As of now I have all the engine bay hardware installed, Spal fans and IAT are connected. I will install the undertray and front bumper tonight, then all I have left is wiring the gauges and installing/setting up the MS. No one local had a DB9-USB adapter so I had to order it, won't be here until Monday.

EO2K

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No Radio Shack near you? They carry a Gigaware one that is stupid expensive, but it works out of the box with Windows 7 without the need for 20 minutes of Google searches.

Looks good man, bet it'll be a bunch of fun!

chiefmg

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RS was the first place I looked. I got the connectors for the Spals and gauges there.

Thanks, I'm sure it will be. Going to be hard not to romp on it before I get the fuel tuned up though.

chiefmg

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Got home from vacation yesterday, the adapter cable and air filter I ordered were here. Put the last few bits on today, got the MS set up and fired her up. She started, no leaks or loose bits anywhere (phew!). The supercharger belt did come off, I tried making some adjustments but it kept coming off. I don't think it was previously run correctly as the belt that came with the kit was missing one rib compared to the new one. I'll have to pull some bits off tomorrow and try to get things lined up better. My boost gauge isn't working either, I have an idea about that which I'll try tomorrow.

chiefmg

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Well no luck with my adjustments. In order to align both pulleys the 'charger has to be pushed all the way back in its range, and the belt moved off two ribs towards the front when I ran the engine. I'm getting the feeling there is some sort of vertical misalignment but no way to adjust for that. Anyone have any ideas for me?

vehicular

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You have a bracket flipped?

chiefmg

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That was one of the first things I checked. After I took a look I thought maybe the rear one was, but when I compared it to the installation instructions I have it was in correctly.

chiefmg

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Messed with it today, double-checked the brackets (installed correctly). Ended up shimming between the front supercharge brackets and the main plate with one washer under each bolt. That helped, I loosened the bolts up and moved the 'charger out until it looked parallel to the crank pulley to see how much more I needed to shim. I'll pull it all back apart after dinner and put two additional washers under each bolt to see what that nets me.