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Murtaxa 07-13-2017 06:48 PM

How to do a dual throttle body mod? 99 miata mp62 hotside
 
I've been googling my cars symptoms for a while and they seem to be well aligned with others who did this dual throttle body mod. It doesn't idle well on a cold start for 5-10 minutes (will idle fine after a few minutes of driving) and there is noticeable hesitation sometimes when pressing the throttle. Problem is, I don't speak car, so when I look at other threads about what people did, half of it doesn't make sense. What I usually do is order the parts, and get it installed by a mechanic or attempt to do it with a video tutorial. I couldn't find a video tutorial on this. First question: what do I need to buy? I have this on my list so far:

2003 MAZDA MIATA MX-5 1.8L NB OEM THROTTLE BODY IACV TPS MX5 99-05 | eBay

What else do I need for this mod?

If there is a video tutorial or a good step by step list, lemme know.

Thanks

BarbyCar 07-14-2017 09:24 AM

This thread is fairly old but the concept is right
Dual Tb Questions - Forced Induction & N/A Power Mods - MX5Nutz Forum

I bought the kit they talk about but didn't really like it so I designed my own - same method, just a different routing for the cable and connection at the throttle bodies.

Braineack 07-14-2017 09:54 AM

what ECU?

concealer404 07-14-2017 11:09 AM

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x_25 07-14-2017 02:06 PM

Sounds like a tuning issue mostly.

On my M45 setup, I now have an issue with the hand off between throttle bodies when the bypass closes that causes a slight jump in manifold pressure, duno if that is normal or not. May be because I am mixing 1.6 and 1.8 parts, I need to dig into it....

Murtaxa 07-14-2017 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1427625)
what ECU?

Stock with the powercard that came with the supercharger

x_25 07-14-2017 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Murtaxa (Post 1427735)
Stock with the powercard that came with the supercharger

Thats probably your problem. The dual throttle body setup (without an intercooler and such) just gets the car closer to stock so the stock ecu can handle things still.

Braineack 07-14-2017 02:32 PM

yeah, i asked since a decent aftermarket ECU doens't really need the dual TBs, even with all the extra throttled-volume.

Murtaxa 07-14-2017 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by x_25 (Post 1427737)
Thats probably your problem. The dual throttle body setup (without an intercooler and such) just gets the car closer to stock so the stock ecu can handle things still.

But would it solve my problem? The car has an intercooler


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1427741)
yeah, i asked since a decent aftermarket ECU doens't really need the dual TBs, even with all the extra throttled-volume.

Yea but a decent aftermarket ECU costs mula. Reverent or revenant (can't exactly remember his username) quoted me 950 for a megasquirt 3. And I'm assuming that's gonna need to be tuned as well.

turbofan 07-14-2017 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1427643)
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Originally Posted by Murtaxa (Post 1427735)
powercard

:laugh:

18psi 07-14-2017 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Murtaxa (Post 1427771)

Yea but a decent aftermarket ECU costs mula. Reverent or revenant (can't exactly remember his username) quoted me 950 for a megasquirt 3. And I'm assuming that's gonna need to be tuned as well.

nice things cost money (or, just for you, mula)
modifying a car assumes you have said money
people without extra money to waste on car modifications, shouldn't be modifying cars

You: "I have a broken leg, can I fix it with a band aid?"
Us: "No, you need it treated by a medical professional"
You: "but that costs mula"

chicksdigmiatas 07-14-2017 07:30 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/1siu5s.jpg

By the time you finish dicking with the dual throttle bodies, and everything else you're trying to do, you should have just bought a megasquirt. You can get a MS3 basic from Scott for a fair price. Get a used one for cheaper.

Murtaxa 07-14-2017 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 1427825)
https://i.imgflip.com/1siu5s.jpg

By the time you finish dicking with the dual throttle bodies, and everything else you're trying to do, you should have just bought a megasquirt. You can get a MS3 basic from Scott for a fair price. Get a used one for cheaper.

I shall look into it. Send me to the one you call... Scott.

chicksdigmiatas 07-14-2017 10:17 PM

Some say he once stabbed Christopher Walken in the eye with a soldering iron. Others think that he is the reason the word flux is in "flux capacitor."

All we know is, he is called the brain. :brain:

Murtaxa 07-14-2017 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 1427863)
Some say he once stabbed Christopher Walken in the eye with a soldering iron. Others think that he is the reason the word flux is in "flux capacitor."

All we know is, he is called the brain. :brain:

Is it Braineack who commented on this thread?

Murtaxa 07-22-2017 07:59 PM

OK so I found a used diyautotune mspnp2 for 99 miata, and ordered a gm iat sensor from diyautotune as well. I can't figure out where the iat sensor goes, however. Is there drilling and welding and bungs involved? If there's a thread that answers my questions, please send that to me because I can't seem to find it. Thanks in advance

chicksdigmiatas 07-23-2017 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Murtaxa (Post 1429234)
OK so I found a used diyautotune mspnp2 for 99 miata, and ordered a gm iat sensor from diyautotune as well. I can't figure out where the iat sensor goes, however. Is there drilling and welding and bungs involved? If there's a thread that answers my questions, please send that to me because I can't seem to find it. Thanks in advance

Somewhere after the charger and intercooler. You can drill and weld a bung, you can drill and tap the intake manifold if you want. I usually go with the bung in the cold side charge pipe.

Murtaxa 07-24-2017 05:33 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6b93193e0f.jpg
Somewhere around there?


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