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noahheilman60 11-10-2021 08:27 PM

M45 on e85 2003 1.8 vvt
 
Hey guys I have an nb 2 with the 1.8 vvt and was wondering if anyone was running the m45 with e85 on a similar car, Im just looking for psi and horsepower figures but any advice is cool, I'll most likely be running an intercooler, also any advice on inexpensive injectors would be great I was thinking the rx8 yellow tops but I don't know yet, any advice is welcome thanks guys,
Noah

msmola2002 11-10-2021 09:40 PM

https://fuelinjectorclinic.com/flow-calculator Plugging some numbers in here, using 50.8psi (58.8-8psi for an NB) for 200hp at the wheels as a ballpark target you will need 340cc for gasoline, or 443cc for E85. If you wrer not looking at ethanol I'd say buy a set of flowforce 380s. Don;t know if RX8 injectors are compatible with E85 and even then most of the ones you will find are fake, or if they are legit they will need a rebuild which adds to the cost - that and they are old school - have shitty atomization and aren;t linear at lower pulsewidths - shitty idle

the Flowforcesa are bosch EV14s so are a modern injector. If you plan to run E85 I'd say go with the 640s, if you are gonna stick with gasoline, a set of 380s will cover you.



noahheilman60 11-10-2021 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by msmola2002 (Post 1612395)
https://fuelinjectorclinic.com/flow-calculator Plugging some numbers in here, using 50.8psi (58.8-8psi for an NB) for 200hp at the wheels as a ballpark target you will need 340cc for gasoline, or 443cc for E85. If you wrer not looking at ethanol I'd say buy a set of flowforce 380s. Don;t know if RX8 injectors are compatible with E85 and even then most of the ones you will find are fake, or if they are legit they will need a rebuild which adds to the cost - that and they are old school - have shitty atomization and aren;t linear at lower pulsewidths - shitty idle

the Flowforcesa are bosch EV14s so are a modern injector. If you plan to run E85 I'd say go with the 640s, if you are gonna stick with gasoline, a set of 380s will cover you.


​​​​​​Thanks for the advice man what I might do is start with gas and if I don't hit the numbers I want than move to e85, I'm not really worried about a rough idle cus she's a drift car and just trying to make a bit more power up top as cheap as possible so I'll probably go with yellow tops anyway, and I'll go through a part out to make sure there real.

Frofro97 11-11-2021 02:11 AM

Skip the yellows unless you pull them yourself, too many fakes these days.
a water meth kit pre supercharger will do a lot to help the top end and heat soak also is pretty cheap

noahheilman60 11-11-2021 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by Frofro97 (Post 1612404)
Skip the yellows unless you pull them yourself, too many fakes these days.
a water meth kit pre supercharger will do a lot to help the top end and heat soak also is pretty cheap

I'll definitely pull the yellows myself if I decide to go with those I keep hearing about the fakes, and I'll definitely consider meth injection but it kinda seems like a Hassel hot getting me up and running, I will definitely keep it in mind tho when I'm looking to put more power down down the line, do u have any suggestions for a specific kit, I don't know mutch about meth injectionThanks for the advice tho

Frofro97 11-11-2021 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by noahheilman60 (Post 1612405)
I'll definitely pull the yellows myself if I decide to go with those I keep hearing about the fakes, and I'll definitely consider meth injection but it kinda seems like a Hassel hot getting me up and running, I will definitely keep it in mind tho when I'm looking to put more power down down the line, do u have any suggestions for a specific kit, I don't know mutch about meth injectionThanks for the advice tho


put one together yourself imo. superchargers and water injection go together quite well.
get nozzles from your brand of choice.
you can get threaded holders from the hardware store, same with nylon tube.
used pumps can be had for cheap, or get a really high pressure one new.
and then you need a solenoid valve, and relay, again get those from a normal brand
oh and make or buy a tank that will fit into your preferred location

Ken Brock 11-16-2021 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by noahheilman60 (Post 1612392)
Hey guys I have an nb 2 with the 1.8 vvt and was wondering if anyone was running the m45 with e85 on a similar car, Im just looking for psi and horsepower figures but any advice is cool, I'll most likely be running an intercooler, also any advice on inexpensive injectors would be great I was thinking the rx8 yellow tops but I don't know yet, any advice is welcome thanks guys,
Noah

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