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trikchop 05-15-2013 01:39 PM

mp62 14lbs boost 1/4 mile
 
i have a moss motors mp62 kit
150mm overlay bottom pulley
62.5 s/c pulley (14 lbs of boost)
diy copy of tdr top fed intercool
mspnp, 255 pump, 550cc injectors blah blah fuckin blah in my 94 miata

what do you guys think ill run tonight at the dragstrip. it went 14.4 @ 94 before @ 8 lbs of boost.

im using 225/45/15 for tires and car weighs 2290 with my fat ass in it

Braineack 05-15-2013 01:46 PM

14.2

18psi 05-15-2013 01:56 PM

Just run it and report back.

trikchop 05-15-2013 01:59 PM

^ wah

18psi 05-15-2013 02:16 PM

wah?

I'm telling you to run your car and report back, and not a bench racer/ricer and guesstimate on the interwebz just to hype up your hopes and dreams only to shatter them later when you actually run your car.

Its whatever.

I think you'll run a 18.4 @ 67

lol

thenuge26 05-15-2013 02:24 PM

Seriously with that thread title I expected to see a time slip.

If you are going tonight then just STFU about it and post the slip when you are done. Then we can make fun of you for having a supercharger.

trikchop 05-15-2013 02:36 PM

word, i will post results tomorrow. was just wondering what you guys with your infinite knowledge of boos thought i should be looking for in mph.
till then, thanks for the hard time lol

Braineack 05-15-2013 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1011950)
If you are going tonight then just STFU about it and post the slip when you are done. Then we can make fun of you for having a supercharger.

:rofl:

Fireindc 05-15-2013 03:20 PM

Depends on your power output, boost is arbitrary and gives us nothing to go off.

I'd assume 13's, which is respectable.

cjsafski 05-15-2013 03:41 PM

Lol I did a 14.5 @ 96 on shitty all seasons and 7 psi on my old m45. Compared to your run at 8 psi you might want to get a better tune/turbo if you care about quarter mile times.

laguna96 05-15-2013 03:54 PM

Buys a miata for drag car...






...can't understand why herp derp.

trikchop 05-15-2013 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by cjsafski (Post 1011986)
Lol I did a 14.5 @ 96 on shitty all seasons and 7 psi on my old m45. Compared to your run at 8 psi you might want to get a better tune/turbo if you care about quarter mile times.

Yeah, it didn't have shit for timing in it then. I'm hoping for a low 13 at about 103 or so

trikchop 05-15-2013 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by laguna96 (Post 1011998)
Buys a miata for drag car...






...can't understand why herp derp.

Herp derp, the car is an Autocross car. I'm just taking it to the drag strip for shits and grins.

miata2fast 05-15-2013 05:33 PM

I'll play.

14.05 @98 mph

laguna96 05-15-2013 06:38 PM

soft compound or street tires? I would have assumed 8psi supercharged could go a little faster than 14.4 1/4mi

viperormiata 05-16-2013 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by trikchop (Post 1012002)
I'm hoping for a low 13 at about 103 or so

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1368681946

18psi 05-16-2013 01:27 AM

:laugh:


well? what were the results?

codingparadox 05-16-2013 02:02 AM

I always wonder what my car would do in the 1/4, but I'm too lazy to go spend a night at the drag strip with all the 'tards. =/

triple88a 05-16-2013 06:29 AM

I'll play. I estimate somewhere between 12 seconds and 16 seconds. Of course it also depends how fast the tow truck can get your car out of there if you pop a your motor but thats besides the point :P

pdexta 05-16-2013 08:48 AM

13.7 @ 101, but I get the feeling we're never going to get results.

trikchop 05-16-2013 09:15 AM

best pass was
60' 1.938
330' 5.737
1/8 8.893
mph 77.67
1000 1.602
1/4 13.875
mph 99.11

18psi 05-16-2013 09:17 AM

That's not bad.

The MP62 looks to be tapped out since you didn't gain that much trap speed despite nearly doubling the pressure.

Good '60 too.

trikchop 05-16-2013 09:29 AM

its got belt slip like shit aftger about 6200 rpm the runs i short shifter were the fastest, im gonna have to figure out a 6 rib setup cuz the 4 rib shit isnt cutting it

Braineack 05-16-2013 09:32 AM

i was only 0.325 sec slow; not too shabby.

18psi 05-16-2013 09:32 AM

ahh the joys of supercharging

Ryan_G 05-16-2013 09:40 AM

If he did not have belt slip I bet Pdexta would have nailed the ET and trap speed almost exactly.

Braineack 05-16-2013 09:44 AM

but he didnt take into account how shitty SC setups are!

18psi 05-16-2013 09:49 AM

lol

Better carry a couple spare belts and a can of the "anti-slip" spray with you at all times.

I can't hate too much though. I kinda enjoyed the last MP62 setup I drove.

trikchop 05-16-2013 10:47 AM

i got two spare belts :) that anti slip spray is a goddamned joke tho

triple88a 05-16-2013 12:00 PM

Time for a cogged belt.

18psi 05-16-2013 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1012311)
Time for a cogged belt. turbo

fixed

cjsafski 05-16-2013 02:46 PM

The moss kit uses a 4 rib still which is useless on a m62. The setup I made uses a 6 rib and at 14 psi with a barely tight belt no slip ever.

Efini~FC3S 05-17-2013 10:43 AM

Dang, too late to the party but reading through this thread I was totally thinking 13.9ish

So my guess was going to be 13.9 BUT by "The Price is Right" rules I still lose...or did I win. Going over in price is the same as going under in 1/4 mile time estimate? I mean I WIN

Braineack 05-17-2013 10:50 AM

then you would have won. but you didnt guess!

miata2fast 05-19-2013 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by miata2fast (Post 1012043)
I'll play.

14.05 @98 mph


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 1012219)
13.7 @ 101


Originally Posted by trikchop (Post 1012231)
best pass was
60' 1.938
330' 5.737
1/8 8.893
mph 77.67
1000 1.602
1/4 13.875
mph 99.11



Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1012694)
Dang, too late to the party but reading through this thread I was totally thinking 13.9ish

So my guess was going to be 13.9 BUT by "The Price is Right" rules I still lose...or did I win. Going over in price is the same as going under in 1/4 mile time estimate? I mean I WIN

Considering you lose if you go faster than your index time in bracket racing, I would think if you choose too a fast time, you lose.

If that was the case, I would actually be the winner. If you go by Speed Channel's Pass Time rules, pdexta is the winner. At least I was closest on the MPH.


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1012244)
If he did not have belt slip I bet Pdexta would have nailed the ET and trap speed almost exactly.

That is the thing about guessing times. The art is factoring in what is most likely to happen including conditions, and what is likely to go wrong.

Funny thing about tracks of any kind, problems have a way of floating to the top.

laguna96 06-05-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by trikchop (Post 1012274)
i got two spare belts :) that anti slip spray is a goddamned joke tho

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1370472303

say no to belt slip.

thenuge26 06-05-2013 06:50 PM

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Fixed that for you:


Originally Posted by laguna96 (Post 1018794)


sixshooter 06-05-2013 09:31 PM

Just think, if you really work hard to optimize your car and struggle to drop .5 seconds you will be only as fast as Troy's naturally aspirated car above.

trikchop 06-06-2013 08:44 AM

if I zeroed out the alignment and changed to skinny wheels and blah blah blah it would be quicker in the quarter. its an autocross car man. I was just taking it out for shits and grins

trikchop 06-06-2013 08:46 AM

laguna that is what I was planning on doing with the overlay pulley. I figured to cut a ring of .25 aluminum then weld it to the s/c pulley and have it machined for two more ribs also.

laguna96 06-06-2013 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by trikchop (Post 1018954)
laguna that is what I was planning on doing with the overlay pulley. I figured to cut a ring of .25 aluminum then weld it to the s/c pulley and have it machined for two more ribs also.

I actually just had the original overlay lathed for 3 more ribs (7th rib extra for belt adjustment purposes).

But if you want more overdrive then ring it up. I'd just get a smaller nose. I'm spinning like 14k at redline with my tired psycho coffee grinding 45 lol...

triple88a 06-06-2013 08:21 PM

In other words, you're still slow?

trikchop 06-07-2013 08:37 AM

I meant add a ring to the 62.5mm s/c pulley to make it wider then machine it (6 rib).

miata2fast 06-07-2013 11:25 AM

I see you are in Orlando. Eventually I would like to organize a Miatas at the dragstrip, just for kicks and giggles. There are some cars here in Florida that will lay it down.

laguna96 06-07-2013 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by trikchop (Post 1019336)
I meant add a ring to the 62.5mm s/c pulley to make it wider then machine it (6 rib).

Oh yea, well if you have junkyards hand, the buick riviera had several different diameter 6-rib nose polleys that are completely interchangeable with the jackson M45 and moss/brp M62. I forgot the measurements off the top of my head but it's actually a much nicer billet pulley than the steel JR stock on and the small one I use is the equivalent to a 10-11 psi setup on an M45 with overlay.

trikchop 06-09-2013 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by laguna96 (Post 1019444)
Oh yea, well if you have junkyards hand, the buick riviera had several different diameter 6-rib nose polleys that are completely interchangeable with the jackson M45 and moss/brp M62. I forgot the measurements off the top of my head but it's actually a much nicer billet pulley than the steel JR stock on and the small one I use is the equivalent to a 10-11 psi setup on an M45 with overlay.

Good idea, thanks

trikchop 07-08-2014 03:16 PM

I did the six rib setup. if anyone is trying to do this there is a place called pulleyboys.com and they have the s/c pulleys for whatever charger you have

RunninOnEmpty 07-16-2014 04:02 PM

Did your max psi change any? Your original psi looked a little lower than I've normally seen for your pulley ratio and was wondering if you had any belt slip. Unless you've added some flow mods somewhere?

trikchop 07-20-2014 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by RunninOnEmpty (Post 1148721)
Did your max psi change any? Your original psi looked a little lower than I've normally seen for your pulley ratio and was wondering if you had any belt slip. Unless you've added some flow mods somewhere?

yes I was getting a LOT of belt slip. so i threw everything out and have just the s/c and crank pulley with an autotensioner in between them. it looks like its makin over 17 lbs now.

Frank_and_Beans 08-09-2014 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by laguna96 (Post 1018794)

I'm thinking about doing this, as it seems relatively straightforward. Almost like the overlay pulley was designed for 6 ribs, and they just aren't machined. BUT, I still have power steering, and would like to keep it. Does someone make a 6 rib power steering pulley?


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