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Old 05-13-2012, 07:31 AM   #1
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Red face 1 blown bilstein: worth rebuilding?

So as I posted in the previous thread, I decided to go with NB Sport bilsteins and tein S-tech springs. Getting the bilsteins from my brother , and notice that 1 of them (rear left) is leaking. I guess its blown (not sure).

So I found the bilstein rebuild form and considering to send just the 1 in to them for a rebuild ($65).

Couple questions:
Should I send in all 4? (they're off an 02 NB with only ~60k miles)
Should I just not bother and start looking for shocks again? (ugh, hope not)
Should I consider the MUCH more expensive FCM re-valve?

Its a street car. My goal is mild drop with slightly better handling and reliability/durability. MAIN GOAL is to have a nice smooth ride: no bone jarring spring rates or stiff shocks, nothing crazy or track oriented, just a very smooth and nice street suspension. Yes I know "just get xida, moton, etc *insert super UBER baller 1000+ suspension here* is the standard reply, but I seriously doubt I will ever use it, or need it.

I just want a very nice street miata, not a racecar.

Would like some input.

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Old 05-13-2012, 03:49 PM   #2
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I hear great things about the comfyness of FCM. But no matter what you do if you're getting 1 shock redone, you should just do them all.
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Everyone I've spoken to about Bilstein rebuild quality say the same thing - after the only good rebuilder died, their rebuild service went to ----.
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Damn, I'm in the same situation. My front driver side is blown and was thinking about sending them in to be revalved.

My luck, just happened yesterday...
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There's always Stewart development.
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This is turning out to be way overcomplicated lol.
I just want a comfortable car. Not race car. Not auto-x car. Nothing special. Just a well handling, slightly lower than stock street car.

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How about $369 Ricelands? Lol

Seriously....
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:38 AM   #8
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I'm not against racelands at all. I had them on my previous 00 and they worked no problems.

I was just trying to go with something NAME BRAND this time around, and basically have the peace of mind that I don't have to check up on my shocks every few weeks to make sure they're still ok.

I guess its back to square 1 though, and unless I get a good hookup on a re-valve for all 4, I'm back to searching around.

Worst case I'll get another set of ricelands and some rear 250lb springs to balance em out.



I actually just noticed these on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazda-Miata-...080562&vxp=mtr

looks like something similar to raceland, but with dampening adjustability and top hats. HMMM. Wonder if I should try em out? Looks like a knockoff of Megan EZ streets or maybe a knockoff of the Godspeed coilovers (so basically a knockoff of a knockoff LOL).

7k/6k spring rates don't sound bad either.

What does everyone think?

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First time I've seen/heard about those.

How long did your racelands held up for?

Seems like we are in the same boat.
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There's always Stewart development.
Yeah I hear that Bernie guy is really amazing. So amazing.

I vote for entry level coilovers vs revalves.
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I used them for about a year maybe a bit more, and they didn't have a single problem. My car was mildly dropped, nothing drastic, and driven on the street only, so I'm guessing that would help their lifespan significantly.

With a 1 year warrantee I'm really kinda tempted to try these top speed pro's unless someone thinks its a terrible idea.

I don't want to pay for shocks, springs, re-valve, bump stops, etc for a suspension that won't ever see track use.
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I used them for about a year maybe a bit more, and they didn't have a single problem. My car was mildly dropped, nothing drastic, and driven on the street only, so I'm guessing that would help their lifespan significantly.

With a 1 year warrantee I'm really kinda tempted to try these top speed pro's unless someone thinks its a terrible idea.

I don't want to pay for shocks, springs, re-valve, bump stops, etc for a suspension that won't ever see track use.
The adjust-ability on those ebay-specials will be 100% worthless. Buy some tein basis or maybe look for some used billys with springs.
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I thought I read that FCM only revalved new Bilsteins?
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I actually just noticed these on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazda-Miata-...080562&vxp=mtr
These shocks are orange.

Emilio's car is orange.

Emilio's car is fast and handles well.

Seems pretty clear to me.
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Sound logic is sound

I have all the time in the world to research this nonsense and come to a conclusion, so I figured I'd see what you folks thought.

If the 1 billy wasn't blown on the set I have access to, this thread would not exist.
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So I've been reading up on the ricelands last night, and basically think I'm going to stay away from them. Something about there being a smaller shock inside an already pretty small shock and the rears having next to no dampening (according to the shock dyno thread) that bothers me.

Also definitely going to stay away from those Top Speed Pro's I posted. Can't find a single person that reviewed them or posted any relevant info proving them to at least not completely suck. Only reviews seem to come from the 350z "hellaflush" crowd and the general opinion is "well they let me slam the everliving sh* out of my car for only $500 bux, YAY". Not good enough for me.

So now I'm waiting for a response from FCM and SD to get their input on my situation.
At this point I think I'll stick to either rebulit bilsteins or brand new tokico illuminas, OR start looking for Tein Basis or possibly megan ez streets.
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No consideration of FM's V-maxxxxxxxxx?
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Hope all goes well and you get what you want out of your suspension...

I've decided to rebuild(SD) my stock NA bilsteins too and use 300/200lbs springs, NB top hats and reuse my 36mm bumps. Figure this entire set up will cost right under 1k.
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From what I heard the vmaxx is just a fancy riceland. Is this not correct?

And 1k is a bit steep for me for a street suspension. I mean if I tracked or auto-x'd it like you then sure, but daily driving on 1k suspension? A bit rich for my blood
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^ Good point. I'd love an unbiased review of them from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
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