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miataspeed1point6 06-24-2008 02:37 PM

1st gen FM springs too short?
 
I just installed a set of 1st gen FM springs on my Konis. I have FCM mounts and bumpstops also. The springs are loose enough to move around. I didn't even need to compress them to put the mounts on.

It doesn't take much pressure to move the mount down to the top of the spring. It is maybe 4-6mm away. Is this normal? I'm going to try putting it in to see if the suspension is tight enough to simply hold them together.

EDIT: The Konis are on the highest perch as per the FCM instructions. I would call Shaikh, but I think the springs are the problem not the mounts.

miataspeed1point6 06-24-2008 02:46 PM

Damn it, this should have been in the suspension forum. I forgot we have that now.

IcantDo55 06-24-2008 04:37 PM

My setup is different but my spring when not under load are loose too. Work fine.

miataspeed1point6 06-24-2008 05:06 PM

I went and put everything together. I made sure to torque the bolts under load and to proper spec. The springs are tight when in the air, but when I put the wheel on it sags a 1-2mm. It's not enough to come out of the perches like before, so I'm ok with it.

The car looks GOOD. I can't wait to see how it handles.

Ben 06-24-2008 05:26 PM

Needs more pictures

jayc72 06-24-2008 05:41 PM

Think about it. You are going to a much shorter spring, it's no surprise that under full droop you run out of spring. That's why you see some coilovers with helper springs.

My GC/AGX setup does the same thing, I've never had a problem since I don't often get the car airborn.

miataspeed1point6 06-24-2008 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 275378)
Needs more pictures

Installed:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 275388)
Think about it. You are going to a much shorter spring, it's no surprise that under full droop you run out of spring. That's why you see some coilovers with helper springs.

My GC/AGX setup does the same thing, I've never had a problem since I don't often get the car airborn.

It does make sense, but i was afraid of it before I installed them. The spring could come out of the perches. I was afraid of the car being able to move enough to let the spring come out. After installing it I see that is not possible.

Thanks for letting me know its ok though.

Doppelgänger 06-24-2008 07:53 PM

Well, at least you didn't do what another MT forum member did and put the springs on the wrong end... F on R and R on F.... and THEN call me and ask which springs go where.

Ben 06-24-2008 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by miataspeed1point6 (Post 275442)

Failboat

miataspeed1point6 06-24-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 275449)
Well, at least you didn't do what another MT forum member did and put the springs on the wrong end... F on R and R on F.... and THEN call me and ask which springs go where.

At work everyone kept telling me the longer ones go upfront. I kept telling them the longer ones came OFF the back, why would they go on the front? That was annoying to deal with all day.


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 275452)
Failboat

I screwed up a copy and paste, makes me look smart!

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naarleven 06-30-2008 10:41 AM

Same here on tokico/gc.

And the sizes confused me. Shorter spring on front with longer shock. Had to compare pn w/ springs

kotomile 06-30-2008 11:54 AM

Congrats, I still see gap though...

Braineack 06-30-2008 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 277425)
Congrats, I still see gap though...

they'll still settle slightly. and more gap means more travel.....

kotomile 06-30-2008 12:46 PM

stiff springs = less need for travel :)

Braineack 06-30-2008 12:48 PM

soft springs and travel is all the rage.

naarleven 06-30-2008 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 277446)
soft springs and travel is all the rage.

in Lincolns

miataspeed1point6 07-01-2008 12:35 AM

Thanks to The_pipefather my car runs! He managed to sort out the MS, so I got to take it for a drive. I will be taking pictures tommorow of how it sits. I'm sure everyone is bored of seeing it sitting in my driveway, so I will go find some decent looking spot. I love the stance it has.

With the FCM mounts and bumpstops I have all the travel I will ever need. That being said I doubt the springs even compress...they are STIFF. It's ok though, I like it that way. :giggle:


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