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kenzo42 07-24-2009 06:46 PM

3.9 or 4.3 Torsen for a DD
 
What would you guys prefer for a turbo DD w/ an occasional track day? 3.9 or a 4.3?

This may be paired w/ a 6 speed in the future.

kenzo42 07-24-2009 10:53 PM

OK, is a 4.3 even worth getting for a turbo miata? How worthless will 1st gear be? Does it make that much of a difference?

UrbanSoot 07-24-2009 11:01 PM

3.9 is the way to go

pdexta 07-24-2009 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by urbansoot (Post 434501)
3.9 is the way to go

+1.

kenzo42 07-26-2009 12:07 AM

Can someone comment on how useless 1st (w/ 4.3) would be versus a 4.1? Is it really noticeable?

ZX-Tex 07-26-2009 12:23 AM

3.9 for sure. I have 3.6 with a 6-speed and it is great, but hard to get now apparently.

Savington 07-26-2009 01:41 AM

For a DD, 3.9. For a track car, 4.3 or 4.1 depending on your power level.

Joe Perez 07-26-2009 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 434771)
Can someone comment on how useless 1st (w/ 4.3) would be versus a 4.1? Is it really noticeable?

It's relatively subtle. First gear will spin the wheels on my car after 4,000 the same now on the 4.1 as it did with the stock 4.3.

johnwag 07-26-2009 12:03 PM

Power level makes the biggest difference.

4.3 gears with a 5 speed it a fun setup for n/a. It's what I run and I have 120whp. I have driven a 220whp s/c 99 miata with the 4.3 gears. The gearing is short and tends to put you in between gears in some corners.

The 5 speed with a 3.90/6 speed with 3.63 tends to be the most popular setups as far as gearing and usable power. Gary @ trackdog uses a REM treated 5 speed with 3.90 gears in his 290whp red 99.

Here is a video of the 220whp supercharged 99 miata I was talking about. I'm behind in my 120whp black '94 with hustler's 200# ass riding along. Notive where the tach needle is after shifts and how he has to do some coasting in certain turns because of the gearing.


Savington 07-28-2009 09:35 PM

If I drove all the way to TX to drive around in a clusterfuck freight train like that I'd be pissed off.

hustler 07-28-2009 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 435883)
If I drove all the way to TX to drive around in a clusterfuck freight train like that I'd be pissed off.

This thread just sealed the deal for me on manifolds. I'm going for blood in that event.


On gearing, it depends on power. If you're not tracking it, 3.90.

johnwag 07-29-2009 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 435883)
If I drove all the way to TX to drive around in a clusterfuck freight train like that I'd be pissed off.

Hallett is in Oklahoma. It's awesome! Don't hate!

You would have no problems passing people with all the horsepower that your turd is about to unleash.

That is the advance session. The session for men.....ok, some men. It ends up being wheel to wheel for some of us. ;) You didn't see video of the day before where we had 6 hours of open track time for $75.

soflarick 08-06-2009 07:21 PM

I ran a 5-speed with 3.90s on the street and open track. Street manners were great. Track manners was a bit of a compromise, but not much for me since I am a little inexperienced. More power would have made the 3.90s better for track use IMO. Now the car carry's a 6-speed. On the street, 1st is useless, and I frequently skip gears. I haven't tracked the car with the current drivetrain setup, but I want the 3.63s.


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