6 speed transmission #4 go boom.
This time new failure mode. Stripped second gear instead of 4th this time. Newish 275 A6 hoosiers nice 80 degree day on a super grippy lot. Car was ridiculously fast until that happened near the finish of my first autocross run.
Sure wish somebody would make a proper solution with good gearing for this weak link. |
whatever happened to your s15 box project?
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Originally Posted by 18psi
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whatever happened to your s15 box project?
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Have you torn it down yet? I'd bet 4th gear only survived because you weren't using it this weekend. If 2nd had held together, 4th would have blown for sure on the first day of the NASA TT this weekend.
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How much torque do you run with the auto-x boost setting that you nuked 2nd gear?
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Originally Posted by mr_hyde
(Post 1136059)
Have you torn it down yet? I'd bet 4th gear only survived because you weren't using it this weekend. If 2nd had held together, 4th would have blown for sure on the first day of the NASA TT this weekend.
This transmission might have been a little suspect as I built it myself out of two damaged transmissions. The first transmission I broke actually had a thrust retainer failure and the gears were fine on one of the shafts where as a 4th gear strip out takes out the other shaft. |
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Originally Posted by Leafy
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How much torque do you run with the auto-x boost setting that you nuked 2nd gear?
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Just finishing up my build and found this post and the other 6 speed post. These two post have me worried and after some research I found this. Seams like a good high HP and T fix. I emailed them and I
Was informed this will fit in the Mazda box. They will even make custom hear ratios. It's a lot cheaper then the Nismo box as well. http://www.par-engineering.com/Products/Catalog/ProdID/410/CatID/120/FS6R92A_1st5th_Synchromesh_Engagement_gearset.aspx |
Originally Posted by 92mazdaspeed
(Post 1139677)
Just finishing up my build and found this post and the other 6 speed post. These two post have me worried and after some research I found this. Seams like a good high HP and T fix. I emailed them and I
Was informed this will fit in the Mazda box. They will even make custom hear ratios. It's a lot cheaper then the Nismo box as well. FS6R92A 1st~5th Synchromesh Engagement gearset - S15 Silvia/200SX FS6R92ASH-SET : PAR - Precision Automation Robotics |
Bob I have some ideas on transmission stuff. You might entertain the ideas. Shoot me a message.
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Originally Posted by bbundy
(Post 1139756)
I believe Emmilio tried to get something out of PAR a while ago. don't knowo if that is who he has been talking to more recently. that is the 5 speed not the 6.
" Hi, Approximate ratings for each, Dog sets 1000hp, 800Nm Synchro 800hp, 650Nm. Are you using the gear set for street driving or purely track use? Since the transmission is an Aisin the same as used in nissan and mazda certain models besides the input and output shafts the prices can be found on ur site, http://www.par-engineering.com/Products/Catalog/CatID/120/S15_Silvia200SX.aspx " |
Originally Posted by FrankL
(Post 1139769)
Bill I have some ideas on transmission stuff. You might entertain the ideas. Shoot me a message.
I don't know much about it since I haven't had to look into this at my power level but I've heard more than one time about the RX-7 trans mounting up with an adapter plate and handling much more power. Not a good solution? Bad gearing? -Ryan |
Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1139780)
Bad gearing?
-Ryan |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1139808)
Bad gearing and heavy was what I heard. And requires custom parts at input and output ends. A custom gearset in a factory box would be perfect in many ways.
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Originally Posted by bbundy
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I believe Emmilio tried to get something out of PAR a while ago. don't knowo if that is who he has been talking to more recently. that is the 5 speed not the 6.
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Originally Posted by kaisersoze
(Post 1139816)
PAR does make 6 speed gearsets in either synchro or dog setups. It is 6-7K for the gearsets. So not exactly cheap. If emilio wasn't working on a cheaper set of gears I would have gone this way, but I have a couple of extra 6 speeds so I am not in a big hurry.
6-Speed Heavy Duty In-Line RWD Sequential Gearbox with Helical Gears |
Only 375hp though, and needs a bell housing.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
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Only 375hp though, and needs a bell housing.
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Originally Posted by Savington
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Quaife makes a BP bellhousing, IIRC. The QBE69G box is rated for more torque as well. Bring your checkbook to the tune of $10-12k for a QBE69G + bellhousing + diff mount + driveshaft + trans controller.
The bellhousing is not made by quaife, when I called Quaife USA they said they didnt make one but Quaife UK gave me the information, I have it written down somewhere. |
And a Quaife box is never perfect the first time out. Be prepared for adjustments and improvements after 5-10 hours (a couple times).
Quaife and Elite are low end racing boxes... PAR gears in the AZ6 is a different ballgame of complexity (but can be assembled less than perfect of course). |
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