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codrus 03-13-2014 02:16 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1111321)
You cant mix masters between thick and thin boosters.

You mean in addition to the NB1 vs NB2?

(my original 99 NB1 booster and ABS NB2 2003 booster are the same thickness. They're visually identical except for the angle of the vacuum fitting and the length of the pushrod)

--Ian

Leafy 03-13-2014 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1111349)
You mean in addition to the NB1 vs NB2?

(my original 99 NB1 booster and ABS NB2 2003 booster are the same thickness. They're visually identical except for the angle of the vacuum fitting and the length of the pushrod)

--Ian

No, you can mix nb1 and nb2 as long as they have the same thickness booster, because if they have the same thickness booster they'll have the same thickness pushrod. Not all nb2s have the thick booster.

asmasm 03-13-2014 10:02 AM

I haven't seen enough of the booster and master combinations in person but my understanding is that the thick/thin booster on NB2s is an ABS vs non ABS car difference and that the masters are interchangeable between all NB2 cars. The thread is super off topic now- andrew swapped his NA booster/master combo for a non ABS NB2 booster and master in order to improve brake feel.

Dunning Kruger Affect 03-13-2014 11:13 AM

NB2 Sport Booster/Master.

Sport brakes were standard 2003-2005.

codrus 03-13-2014 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1111366)
No, you can mix nb1 and nb2 as long as they have the same thickness booster, because if they have the same thickness booster they'll have the same thickness pushrod.

Except they don't. As I said, my NB1 booster has a different length pushrod in it than my NB2 one, and yet the two boosters are the same thickness.

--Ian

DaveC 03-13-2014 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by asmasm (Post 1111195)
It's part of a conversion to the NB2 5/16 master.

I put a 1" 929 MC in my ABS 94 and did not need to change the booster. Based on this mt.net thread I was led to believe that I would, but the 929 MC bolted right up to the NA8 ABS booster. I'm guessing the NB2 15/16" MC would as well.

It's possible (likely?) that the appropriate booster has a higher boost ratio for lower pedal effort, but I actually prefer the higher effort, especially with Carbotech XP8/XP10.

FWIW, I have two NB2 boosters that are should work with the 15/16" and 1" masters, though I have not tested either of them. I'd be willing to let them go for shipping + $10.

asmasm 03-13-2014 01:50 PM

Edit- moved to PM

EO2K 03-13-2014 06:11 PM

If the issue is the pushrod length, just make sure you get the pushrod with the booster. Derp!

Savington 03-13-2014 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1111424)
Except they don't. As I said, my NB1 booster has a different length pushrod in it than my NB2 one, and yet the two boosters are the same thickness.

--Ian

Are you 100% certain on the thickness? The booster ratio between NB1 and NB2 is different.

codrus 03-13-2014 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1111644)
Are you 100% certain on the thickness? The booster ratio between NB1 and NB2 is different.

I didn't break out the digital calipers, so it's possible they differ by a few mm, but neither of them is the double-thickness booster that is discussed in the miata.net thread. I had them sitting side-by-side out of the car, and they are visually identical except for the length of the pushrod and the angle of the vacuum fitting.

I think the booster/MC combinations are significantly more complex than the ones that Keith looked up and posted in that thread.

--Ian


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