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anyone used a cheap stage 3 clutch

hi guys, looking at https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XTD-STAGE...MAAOxy4~BSO1kx
its a stage 3 padle clutch made by xcd with flywheel. i want to fit it to my mk 1 1.6 turbo about 230 bhp - just seems to cheap?
anyone else used one or heard anything about them? thanks joe

just got stage 69 bro

i got a stage 4 clutch form ebay so far its been good i have about 4k miles on it little hard to get used to at first but it dosent slips and holds the power

I'd say at least a stage 5 or 6, maybe even a 7 depending on track use.

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Originally Posted by Scaxx (Post 1494185)

maybe even a 7 depending on track use.

For a 1.6 making 230 hp, I'd be concerned about the danger to the manifold.

It's a crazy numbering system. See, anything with a puck is automatic stage 2, except full carbon-stage5. Then add a stage for every puck less than 5-each a stage.
now you got pressure plates-1 through 4.

so yea, lots a stages.

See i reckon you're an 8 or a 9, maybe even 9.5 in 3 beers' time.

Just get a clutch you know you won't have to remove soon. Dropping the transmission is something I plan to do as least as possible. A good clutch doesn't cost much more then a cheap shitty driving clutch.

Got more stages than a WRC rally...

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1494181)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XTD-STAGE...MAAOxy4~BSO1kx

"The friction surface is very special."

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...25391773d6.png

You are going straight to hell for this, Mr. Perez.

He's going to hell for a whole lot of things this being the least of them.

If you value your legs you should just not be super cheap and get a real clutch. There are plenty of videos and testimonials of these things randomly exploding during use and throwing shrapnel right through the bell housing, trans tunnel and into the car.

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Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1494476)

i do value my legs my clutch feels great the fore is still less then my buddys mustang :p

He was talking about the clutch exploding through the bell housing and into the passenger compartment thus removing or severely damaging your legs.

Its all good bro just keep a couple tourniquets close by and practice putting them on in the car and you will be fine when the bleeding stops.

Do they sell a scatter shield with that clutch?

I’ve had good luck, sort of.

I’ve used a bunch of XTD clutches since the Honda shop next door would randomly hand me ones they got for projects. So far I’ve had them in four cars, and they all work, if they are pretty unsophisticated.

The first was a stage 3 on a Fidanza flywheel for my super-yo-budget-ghetto BP 1990, and it’s held up to decent power and 3500 street miles as well as a few track days. Sucks to drive on the street, no two ways about it. Chatter, grabby, but doesn’t slip on 300whp and R888Rs.

The second was on an autox DA Integra I screwed with while finishing up my GTX. It was the “Sport” disc and flywheel combo. Worked really nicely on the B20 LS/VTEC and drove very nicely. Put 2500 miles on it, sold it, new owner loves the car.

Third was a Stage 2 on an NA6, that was handed to me. Drove fine,

Latest is on my resurrected GTX. Despite what I was told, it did not have the requisite Centerforce, but an Exedy stock replacement disc and pressure plate. When the “built”engine in the car failed from having no head dowels, I built a decent B6T for it with a GT2560R. I decided to see if XTD could make me a clutch combo, and they did. It drives beautifully (Stage 2) and I have had no slipping issues. Now about 1500 miles.

Long term durability? Who knows, but the Honda world seems to like them. My first choice? Not at all, but I don’t think they are quite the garbage many do.

The numbering system is incredibly stupid, but they have been very willing to talk actual specs with me, so there is that.

Who cares if cheap Honda owners like them. Don't encourage people to use dangerous parts.

One thing to bear in mind is that some Chinese knockoff parts sold on Alibaba / Ebay are of good quality, some require a little cleanup / finish work to get there, and some are just trash.

The problem is that it's usually impossible to know which ones are which beforehand.

XTD is not a company which manufactures clutches and flywheels. It's just a made-up name that various different sellers of Chinese-made parts apply to whatever stuff they received in the most recent container shipment. Kind of an interesting situation, in which many dozens or perhaps hundreds of different sellers, who have no formal relationship with one another, have collectively created a recognized brand by all putting the same sticker and name on whatever they happen to be selling.

Residents of NYC will recognize this situation as being analogous to that of [Famous / Original / Ray's] Pizza. (Everyone else, google it.)

If I were purchasing clutch kits from Shijiazhuang Zequn Auto Accessary Co., Ltd. for ¥340 each, and re-selling them for £270, (roughly a 6x markup), I'd certainly splurge for a few stickers that say "XTD" and stick them on the parts.