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turbo94 04-17-2009 05:46 PM

does this part exist?
 
my shifter is real sloppy so i took it out to look at it. is there supposed to be a bushing on the bottom ball? cause its real sloppy in the hole it goes in. 94 m-edition

Stein 04-17-2009 05:48 PM

Yes, there is a plastic bushing that goes around the ball.

mrtonyg 04-17-2009 06:06 PM

You are going to need all these parts for a proper repair:
eBay Motors: Mazda Miata shifter boot body seal and bushings (item 260394798033 end time Apr-21-09 10:52:44 PDT)

But the one that is main cause for the shifter slop is part number:0398-17-462A

gospeed81 04-17-2009 06:18 PM

Can be picked up at your local Mazda dealer for $5.52. They should have a whole bag of them on hand if you want to do the quick fix. Did this yesterday, made me happy. The rubber boots are like $40, and they have to order them. If yours are crappy (should be) might be worth it to get the whole eBay kit.

turbo94 04-17-2009 06:30 PM

holy crap wow. awesome replies. thanks! ill head over to the mazda dealer tomarrow for the bushing. and yeah, both the upper and lower boots are cracked/dry/ missing. for weight reduction... lol is there any possibility of damage occuring from not having that bushing? oh and i should probably change the oil in the transmission, eh? was gonna do tranny, oil, and diff fluid tomarrow anyway. gonna try some royal purple.

Thucydides 04-17-2009 07:46 PM

Fuck eBay. I just tallied up the parts at Rosenthal Mazda and the $80 ebay kit is around $73. Add that to a few other items you need or want and shipping's free.

turbo94 04-17-2009 11:56 PM

imma check prices while im at the dealership tomorrow.

gospeed81 04-18-2009 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Thucydides (Post 397400)
Fuck eBay. I just tallied up the parts at Rosenthal Mazda and the $80 ebay kit is around $73. Add that to a few other items you need or want and shipping's free.

+1 after looking...plus who needs new sound deadener? At the dealership they let you just buy what you need.

Word of advice...don't get too hefty with the three little bolts that hold down the plate above shifter ball.

turbo94 04-18-2009 10:21 AM

yeah i figured not to put the heave ho on those bolts

Stein 04-18-2009 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by turbo94 (Post 397370)
was gonna do tranny, oil, and diff fluid tomarrow anyway. gonna try some royal purple.


You do know that the turret oil is separate from the rest of the transmission oil, right? Just making sure.

gospeed81 04-18-2009 11:24 AM

I just put some wheel bearing grease in there, I hope that does the trick.

The oil that was in there previously was all watered down due to bad boot, I figured the grease would hold up a little better.

dstn2bdoa 04-18-2009 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Thucydides (Post 397400)
Fuck eBay. I just tallied up the parts at Rosenthal Mazda and the $80 ebay kit is around $73. Add that to a few other items you need or want and shipping's free.

Free shipping? I buy all my oem stuff from them, and always pay shipping. Am I missing the secret handshake?

mrtonyg 04-18-2009 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by dstn2bdoa (Post 397566)
Free shipping? I buy all my oem stuff from them, and always pay shipping. Am I missing the secret handshake?

:laugh:

turbo94 04-18-2009 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 397553)
You do know that the turret oil is separate from the rest of the transmission oil, right? Just making sure.

to be honest, i had no idea. but that would make sense cause i thought it looked like graphite lube.
but all that will be next week due to the parts counter at the dealer being closed on the weekend.. :vash: cant you fill the transmission from that hole, also? not that i was gonna do that tho..

kotomile 04-18-2009 05:18 PM

No, you can't fill the transmission from the turret.

Thucydides 04-18-2009 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by dstn2bdoa (Post 397566)
Free shipping? I buy all my oem stuff from them, and always pay shipping. Am I missing the secret handshake?

No secret handshake; simply wait until you need $150 worth of parts and then shipping's free. In my case, and with three new '95's to take care of, that's about once a month or so.

BenR 04-19-2009 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 397353)
Yes, there is a plastic bushing that goes around the ball.



There's also a aluminium cup that mazda comp sells/used to sell that replaces that bushing for even tighter shifting.

Thucydides 04-20-2009 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by BenR (Post 397856)
There's also a aluminium cup that mazda comp sells/used to sell that replaces that bushing for even tighter shifting.

But that sometimes causes issues shifting into reverse, if that's important.

Stein 04-20-2009 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by turbo94 (Post 397615)
to be honest, i had no idea. but that would make sense cause i thought it looked like graphite lube.

Swab out as much of the old gunk as possible with shop towels and add about 5 oz of gear oil to the turret. The tranny is filled by a plug in the side of the tranny. It takes about 2 quarts.

TIP:

Be sure you can loosen the fill plug before you drop the old gear oil. Some have dropped the lube, only to find that they couldn't get the plug out and were SOL until they could get the tools to do the job.

I had one that I had to use a bigger pipe wrench on. It was unbelieveably tight.

gospeed81 04-20-2009 09:10 PM

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This is what I found when I went to change mine:


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Old on left, new on right. Notice the top half of the old one is missing, which is where that end of the shifter applies the force, so the old one might as well have been non-existant.


I'd say it's the best $5 I've spent on the Miata. Really puts the clicketly-click back in the shifter like the designers intended 17 yrs ago.


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