Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
Don't tell me what to do.
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Originally Posted by chrisabidaoud
(Post 1484353)
Please elaborate and explain to me how
Help out those who care about an inexpensive transmission upgrade. Fill in the costs below: transmission: transmission bell housing adapter/fix from the machinist: transmission tail/rear support OR ppf adapter: clutch disc that works with Miata pp/flywheel: pilot bearing: throwout and fork solution: slave solution: driveshaft: shifter solution: I think that should cover the swap...? :dunno: Looks like you can go to car-part.com and pickup a TII or FD trans for ~$500 delivered. I just drove down to Mazmart and picked my 60k FD trans up for $385. |
Originally Posted by m2cupcar
back at ya-
Help out those who care about an inexpensive transmission upgrade. Fill in the costs below: transmission: transmission bell housing adapter/fix from the machinist: transmission tail/rear support OR ppf adapter: clutch disc that works with Miata pp/flywheel: pilot bearing: throwout and fork solution: slave solution: driveshaft: shifter solution: I think that should cover the swap...? :dunno: Looks like you can go to car-part.com and pickup a TII or FD trans for ~$500 delivered. I just drove down to Mazmart and picked my 60k FD trans up for $385. So far research says an nc clutch disk will fit, u can use miata pressure plate and flywheel. Pilot bearing has to be spaced out just like the t2 swap but not sure how much, will know when i get it back and test fit it. Driveshaft will be made by v8roadsters instead of the one they give with their rear end kit. No ppf will be needed will make a cross member mount made out of stainless all u need is a bar about 2 feet max a 1 1/2 inch large. U can use stock miata slave cylinder but as far as I remember will have to be mounted on the other side of the block? I have to double check that info. As far as machinist, i bought a 5 speed for 150 took it to him with a spare 1.8 block that was assembled with flywheel. He will be taking the miata bellhousing and fit it on the fd. Advised me it wouldn't cost more than 400$ |
Originally Posted by chrisabidaoud
(Post 1484493)
Got the transmission for 200 from a buddy of mine he gave me the throwout bearing he had bought new for it and the fork.
So far research says an nc clutch disk will fit, u can use miata pressure plate and flywheel. Pilot bearing has to be spaced out just like the t2 swap but not sure how much, will know when i get it back and test fit it. Driveshaft will be made by v8roadsters instead of the one they give with their rear end kit. No ppf will be needed will make a cross member mount made out of stainless all u need is a bar about 2 feet max a 1 1/2 inch large. U can use stock miata slave cylinder but as far as I remember will have to be mounted on the other side of the block? I have to double check that info. As far as machinist, i bought a 5 speed for 150 took it to him with a spare 1.8 block that was assembled with flywheel. He will be taking the miata bellhousing and fit it on the fd. Advised me it wouldn't cost more than 400$ you gon learn |
Originally Posted by 18psi
bless your heart. so young, so ambitious.
you gon learn |
Made a mistake the location for the slave will remain the same
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Originally Posted by chrisabidaoud
(Post 1484497)
Tell me what i am doing wrong and enlighten me to do it right
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You're not going to use a "cheap" stock NC clutch if you're making half the power you hope. A good disk will cost at least $150 new (with your connections). I think you'll find the opposite issue with the pilot bearing- the FD trans input shaft is longer the the TII. Don't forget to check the spline engagement on the clutch disk too. There's some critical measurements to consider in all this clutch/transmission stuff. That drive shaft is going to be at least $200. If you go with a trans support as planned, then you will have to do something for the diff/pinion. The slave actually mounts to the "bell housing", not the block. And they're on opposite sides, but since you're using the Miata "bell housing" it will be on the correct side. Which of course creates a new problem: what do with an FD throw out fork/bearing and a Miata slave. You'll have to figure out how to make the FD fork move like it did in the stock application using the Miata slave. More difficult than you think since clutch springs don't move much. There's probably some science figuring that out. Or luck. Curious to see the "bell housing" solution with the 5spd since it doesn't actually have a bell, but a front section with bearings and other good stuff. There's nothing overly simple or cheap about this.
Originally Posted by chrisabidaoud
(Post 1484493)
Got the transmission for 200 from a buddy of mine he gave me the throwout bearing he had bought new for it and the fork.
So far research says an nc clutch disk will fit, u can use miata pressure plate and flywheel. Pilot bearing has to be spaced out just like the t2 swap but not sure how much, will know when i get it back and test fit it. Driveshaft will be made by v8roadsters instead of the one they give with their rear end kit. No ppf will be needed will make a cross member mount made out of stainless all u need is a bar about 2 feet max a 1 1/2 inch large. U can use stock miata slave cylinder but as far as I remember will have to be mounted on the other side of the block? I have to double check that info. As far as machinist, i bought a 5 speed for 150 took it to him with a spare 1.8 block that was assembled with flywheel. He will be taking the miata bellhousing and fit it on the fd. Advised me it wouldn't cost more than 400$ |
he gon learn :)
or become a statistic like so many others |
Originally Posted by m2cupcar
You're not going to use a "cheap" stock NC clutch if you're making half the power you hope. A good disk will cost at least $150 new (with your connections). I think you'll find the opposite issue with the pilot bearing- the FD trans input shaft is longer the the TII. Don't forget to check the spline engagement on the clutch disk too. There's some critical measurements to consider in all this clutch/transmission stuff. That drive shaft is going to be at least $200. If you go with a trans support as planned, then you will have to do something for the diff/pinion. The slave actually mounts to the "bell housing", not the block. And they're on opposite sides, but since you're using the Miata "bell housing" it will be on the correct side. Which of course creates a new problem: what do with an FD throw out fork/bearing and a Miata slave. You'll have to figure out how to make the FD fork move like it did in the stock application using the Miata slave. More difficult than you think since clutch springs don't move much. There's probably some science figuring that out. Or luck. Curious to see the "bell housing" solution with the 5spd since it doesn't actually have a bell, but a front section with bearings and other good stuff. There's nothing overly simple or cheap about this.
Machinist job to make sure the fd tranny fits my block and flywheel at a 100%. He will cut out the front section of the 5 speed and weld it on the fd bellhousing i m sure u understood what i meant. I did say the slave will stay in the right position, and i think i can use the miata fork after some slight modifications to fit the application if i cant use the fd fork. Driveshaft price is already covered with the v8roadsters kit all i need is to send them measurements when i get everything bolted on. I will try to get pics of it as soon as i get it back from the machinist, he promised me it will be ready this week |
Originally Posted by chrisabidaoud
(Post 1484540)
I m not using a stock nc clutch i m going to be using an act 6 puck disc or what they recommend for my power level, it uses similar spline engagements as the fd.
Machinist job to make sure the fd tranny fits my block and flywheel at a 100%. He will cut out the front section of the 5 speed and weld it on the fd bellhousing i m sure u understood what i meant. I did say the slave will stay in the right position, and i think i can use the miata fork after some slight modifications to fit the application if i cant use the fd fork. Driveshaft price is already covered with the v8roadsters kit all i need is to send them measurements when i get everything bolted on. I will try to get pics of it as soon as i get it back from the machinist, he promised me it will be ready this week |
Originally Posted by concealer404
Oh super. That'll work great then.
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I know when i look for things that allow me to bolt parts together that transmit power, i like to look for similar splines. Doesn't have to be the same. Similar is good.
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:laugh: using terms like "similar" and "close" when talking about mm tolerances of parts that have zero room for error
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You guys new what i meant, i wish there is an edit button and say "same" instead of similar.
I speak 4 languages so excuse me if my english vocab is a bit weak |
Oh shit NOW i'm impressed.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Oh shit NOW i'm impressed.
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How much less could you care?
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Also in for how much less.
Having an edit button available has been a long running complaint here on this foru..... wait. |
Could*
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Yeah i got that. It's cool. So how much less could you care? Inquiring minds need to know.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1484556)
Yeah i got that. It's cool. So how much less could you care? Inquiring minds need to know.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Yeah i got that. It's cool. So how much less could you care? Inquiring minds need to know.
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Originally Posted by chrisabidaoud
(Post 1484558)
Could care as less than 0.01"
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Now you're just not making sense.
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Just say it out loud to yourself: "I could care less".
Then think about what that means. Then think about what you meant. We'll be waiting right here when you figure it out. |
Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
Just say it out loud to yourself: "I could care less".
Then think about what that means. Then think about what you meant. We'll be waiting right here when you figure it out. |
No need. You're the only one confused.
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
No need. You're the only one confused.
U came here not knowing what to say and with irrelevant comments not related to the topic, so i m pretty sure we both know who is confused here |
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Normally, I'd jump in on the train, but I actually want to see you do this.
Make no mistake, it's a bad idea, and anyone reading this in the future should be clear on that. That being said, you seem to have some concept of how it should go together, so good luck. |
I think your machinist could sell those bell housings at $400 each for easy/cheap transmission swap/upgrade. Or is that your connection price? Either way that would make it a bolt-in upgrade for cheap (except for all the other stuff).
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Is the basist/lead wearing a vagina hat? |
Originally Posted by m2cupcar
I think your machinist could sell those bell housings at $400 each for easy/cheap transmission swap/upgrade. Or is that your connection price? Either way that would make it a bolt-in upgrade for cheap (except for all the other stuff).
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Originally Posted by Monk
Normally, I'd jump in on the train, but I actually want to see you do this.
Make no mistake, it's a bad idea, and anyone reading this in the future should be clear on that. That being said, you seem to have some concept of how it should go together, so good luck. |
Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1484590)
Is the basist/lead wearing a vagina hat?
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1484590)
Is the basist/lead wearing a vagina hat?
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for reference:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...248db6bc81.jpg I used the insert button to post this image |
after i read this all through how am i then one that ended up with neg cats? :cry:
This thread though is a pretty typical internet interaction. IBTL :lockd: |
It is okay i can take the hate, but we ll see when the transmission is finished i ll make a nice list and upload some pics
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I thought it was more like this (picture taken in my yard):
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1484655)
flowers
Originally Posted by 90LowNSlo
(Post 1484636)
This thread though is a pretty typical internet interaction.
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We don't close or lock threads here. If there's a problem with a thread we just ban the individual responsible.
https://rlv.zcache.com/team_vagina_t..._8byvr_540.jpg |
I honestly want to see him finish this. I for one applaud the gauge of OPs skin.
But seriously, the hat looks like some sort of feminist statment, like its intentionally modeled after majora and minora. |
I want to see it happen too, and might as well get a few laughs in along the way. I hate it though when I'm reading through an older build thread just to get to the end and see it fall off the face of the earth.
And either way, make it or break it, it will add to the knowledge base (without using any of my money :p). |
Originally Posted by 90LowNSlo
I want to see it happen too, and might as well get a few laughs in along the way. I hate it though when I'm reading through an older build thread just to get to the end and see it fall off the face of the earth.
And either way, make it or break it, it will add to the knowledge base (without using any of my money :p). |
In for ripper vids! :skid:
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Is it done yet?
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Nope haven't had time to go pick it up yet been busy with work. Might see if someone can pick it up for me
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I bet this has been done for at least 3 months.
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I bet there are kits in production.
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I bet hes pissed he wasted $400 destroying a transmission he could have sold for $500.
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