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Old 10-09-2012, 09:13 AM   #1
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Cool Has anyone driven both FM stg1 and FM Vmaxx suspensions??

Ok kids, title pretty much says it all.

I know I've gone through more suspension setups than I should mention, and before this gets off topic NO I will not get xida or fcm so don't even waste time talking about those.

Heres the thing:

Currently running vmaxx at FM recommended heights. FM recommended alignment. 205-50-15 Falkens on 15x8 Flat outs. Car handles GREAT. No complaints at all. And the ride comfort isn't terrible. But still a little firm for my liking. If these had valve adjustment, or were just "1 click softer" on valving I think I'd be completely happy all around.

But they're not. My commute every day is on some seriously terrible roads. My biggest issue is the small sharp potholes and road imperfections, the car seems to not absorb these as much as I'd like it too.

I have read other site reviews and stared at spring rates til I'm blue in the face. I also tried to make sense of shock dynos to figure out what I want. Yesterday I even called FM and spoke w/ Keith. He said the FM stg1's should be roughly 20% softer, and "should" get me what I want.

I placed my order on the site, but it has yet to be reviewed and processed. So I have something like a day to change my mind if I realise I'm making a mistake.

So what say you? What are your ride comfort impressoins?
I must also say this is like 99% street car, and 1% anything else.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:47 AM   #2
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what's stage1, the illuminas and FM springs?
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:59 AM   #3
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Correct-o-mundo...

ORRRRRRRRRRR

I was just thinking about it, and for $100 less than the Illuminas I can haz the Bilsteins from 949. If the billies paired with FM springs would ride nicer than the Illuminas then eff the valving cause ultimately I just want comfort.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:05 AM   #4
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Id rather have the illuminas.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:11 AM   #5
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Really? I'm glad you say that. Please tell me why so my indecisive *** can finally stop going back and forth lol
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:17 AM   #6
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cause i owned a set for 1 week?




illumina + FM springs = good ride.

I like illuminas for OTS shocks, and the damping is dual adjustable, so increasing the stiffness increases both rebound/bump...it's very apparent when you adjust the shock and try to push them in and let them rebound and fool with the 5 positions of adjustment.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:22 AM   #7
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Cool beans. So I guess I'll stick to my order with FM.
Been reading about this for 3 days now, and every single review I've read yet says this setup is the most comfortable. Comfort is name of the game for me.
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My wife has had the illuminas on her car for prob 3 years. Not complaints from her what so ever!! It is a good daily driven set up.
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Great. Another positive review. Is this with the FM springs?


Also wanted to ask about something that bothers me:
IIRC the difference in na vs nb suspension is simply the tophats and bottom perches.

On FM's site the na suspension includes new bump stops and is $60 cheaper.
The nb suspension doesn't include bump stops and is $60 pricier.

W T F !!!

That makes no sense.
Am I missing something?
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the shocks are different and you can reuse NB stops.
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The dampers themselves are different. Also the springs are different. Factory NA "bump stops" are hard little pieces of rubber that are crap so FM includes upgraded bump stops if you're converting an NA to NB suspension.

Do you have an NA or the NB in your signature?
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I have the 01 in my Sig. Just seems *** backwards to charge more for less. The jew in me is not pleased
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Find another online retailer and comparison shop na vs nb dampers. I think the nb versions are just more expensive.
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Damn you guys and your common sense.

Pretty sure you're right tho
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IIRC the NB versions will have more travel than the NA right? Or maybe I am mis-remembering and am completely wrong.
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Welp I just confirmed my order with FM for the 99-05 setup.

Will be installing as soon as it comes in.
A friend is buying my Vmaxx setup, I'll drive both back to back and provide my feedback for anyone interested.
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FM spread that misinformation when marketing the NB conversion. They now say there is no increased travel for an NA unless you buy their expensive top hats and there are no benefits to an NB conversion other than less NVH.
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Welp I just confirmed my order with FM for the 99-05 setup.

Will be installing as soon as it comes in.
A friend is buying my Vmaxx setup, I'll drive both back to back and provide my feedback for anyone interested.

I'd be interested with your feedback with the Tokicos. I don't really care much for the TEIN Basics I have. I may look for something different sometime in the future and the Tokicos/FM Springs is what I am looking at.
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A friend is buying my Vmaxx setup, I'll drive both back to back and provide my feedback for anyone interested.
Yes please.
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I've had the illuminas for years. I like them.

Been used for a **** ton of daily duty and tons and tons of autocross and back roads racing. You can actually feel the difference after adjusting them.
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