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Old 10-17-2012, 12:28 PM   #81
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On the way home I'll try setting 2, and so on and so forth.
You'll notice a pretty dramatic change once you go past setting 3. I used to daily mine on setting 2 because it was comfortable without feeling like I was driving a bus around the corners.

During autocross I would set it to 4 and it would be about perfect. Never set it to 5 and probably never will.
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On setting 1 the car feels like it has BONE STOCK suspension. Tons of body roll, real floaty, definitely not meant for any performance driving. BUT, that's exactly what I need on my drives to work over terrible roads at 4AM.
FM recommends 3 front, 2 rear. It's what I've run on mine since install... I guess it'd be interesting to test out some other settings, but I've gotten so used to them at 3/2 now.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:59 AM   #83
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Ok so I think I tried all settings yesterday.

1/1 - Underdampened. Body roll for days, floaty, will probably use that for long trips.
2/1 - IMO the perfect setting for my morning commute. Basically like 1/1 but the body roll and floati-ness is mostly controlled, so the car feels like a car and not a blimp.
3/2 - IMO the perfect setting for fun around town driving. Feels just a touch softer than the Vmaxx.
4/3 - Slightly stiffer than the Vmaxx. Will be what I use for canyon carving or extremely spirited driving.
5/4 - Way too stiff for my liking. Definitely over dampened by that point.
5/5 - Didn't even try. I know I'll hate it lol


So there you have if folks. That's my review. Feel free to ask me any questions if you have em while my memory of each suspension is still fresh.

I'd say if you have decent roads in your area, and prefer a very firm/controlled ride the Vmaxx will work nicely. Obviously if you track the car the Vmaxx would probably suit you better.

The Stg1 combo is slightly softer and more street friendly, but not a whole lot. At least on comparable 4/3 settings. On the softer settings it feels more like stock suspension, which I like, because when i'm not flogging this thing spiritedly I don't want to feel every bump/dip on the road.

I'd sum them up very similarly to FM:

"Stg1 for mostly street with some track use"
"Vmaxx for more track than street use"
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:15 AM   #84
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I guess I'll steer my dad to the stage 1 when I can talk him into doing suspension on his 2001. It probably makes more sense than trying to sell him on Vmaxx, anyway. Thanks for the thorough write up and comments, 18psi.
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I see what your issues are Vlad, you need more d0r1ftO settings in your suspension.
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Ok so I think I tried all settings yesterday.

1/1 2/1 3/2 ....
I'm guessing front/rear setting.
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Okay, we have a report on the FM springs with Tokico shocks. I'm interested in FM springs with KYB AGX shocks, the older FM style set-up.
Any reviews on those?
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:24 PM   #92
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Yeah, they sag (the old ones). Way too low, and it bottomed out all the time. I went with Teins.
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Okay, we have a report on the FM springs with Tokico shocks. I'm interested in FM springs with KYB AGX shocks, the older FM style set-up.
Any reviews on those?
I had those a long time ago, about 3 years ago.

At 1st they were ok, but over time the ride quality got worse and worse. In the end I hated them and ditched them for racelands, and believe it or not, but the ride quality was somewhat better with the racelands.

The FM Vmax and Tokicos are much much better obviously.
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Did your shocks blow out? I was warned that they wouldn't handle stiffer springs.
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Nope. I checked them when I removed them and all seemed to be intact and not leaking and "dampening" when pressed in. I just think over time the settings kinda dropped down to the point where 1 - nothing 2 - almost nothing 3 - tiny bit of dampening, etc

But yeah, even FM now tells everyone that AGX can't handle their springs and should be used with stock springs only.
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I think that's what mine are doing. The car just doesn't feel as tight as it was.
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Whoa, I didn't know the KYB AGX go bad like that. I guess I'll have to go with the Tokicos or the V-Maxx. I'll probably just stick with the V-Maxx NB conversion, from what I understand they ride nicely, not too harsh.
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KYB AGX sucks. I blew 4 of them in 6 months with stock springs on NB mounts and FCM bump stops. This was when I had my NA.
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I finally decided on my future suspension: FlyinMiata NB springs, NB Bilstein HD shocks, my FCM bumpstops and my FCM NB tophat mounts.
That will make for a nice compliant ride I am to understand.
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Should be nice.
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