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Old 11-09-2012, 04:49 PM   #101
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18psi, maybe I missed it, but have you posted pics of the stance since putting the new setup on?
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:48 PM   #102
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:45 PM   #103
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awwww come on man.....please let us see the tight new stance yo

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Old 11-09-2012, 08:09 PM   #104
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went back to stock wheels for the winter

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Old 11-09-2012, 08:57 PM   #105
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Stance was the only thing I could think of. Ride height? Vertical stature? Stance was it.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:45 PM   #106
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looks good, thanks for the review. i am going the opposite route, from fm springs/tokico to vmaxx adjustables. looking for slightly stiffer setup with height adjustability.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:24 AM   #107
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With those goals I think you'll be very happy with the switch

that's exactly what they'll accomplish
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:35 AM   #108
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Too bad you guys couldn't talk earlier and just trade suspensions with each other.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:42 PM   #109
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vmaxx shipped today. ill post impressions as soon as i have a chance to put them on.

i will have the fm springs & tophats available once i make the swap. i have a blown rear tokico so i wont have a complete set of those.

i cant pm, so [email protected] for anyone curious about that stuff. dont want to jack this thread.

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Old 11-28-2012, 10:45 PM   #110
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don't tokicos come with warranty? cant' you exchange it?
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:34 AM   #111
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bought them used :^(

my fault, i think i scratched the shaft installing the FM tophats recently.

a great setup though - i co-drove an autox event with a local hotshoe and he placed 3rd FTD in my car on worn out rs3s.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:38 PM   #112
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Long term review.

I'm still liking them

Been on 2/2 basically the whole time. Soft enough for my daily commute, and just a tad firmer than stock.

For weekend duty 3/3 works great.

For hard driving (very rarely) 4/4 works, but I find myself switching it right back down very quickly. Gets old quick
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:31 AM   #113
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So I am getting another alignment tomorrow.

About to put my nice wheels back on, and haven't aligned the car since switching form Vmaxx to the FM Stg1 (even though the change was very minor and its probably barely off if at all).


My question:

WHAT SHOULD I GO WITH FOR DAILY DRIVER ALIGNMENT?

I'm thinking:

caster 5
front camber -1
front toe 0

rear camber -0.5
rear toe 0

Or should I stick with the current FM specs?
Or should I go with the 949Racing specs?

Again, this is a daily driver, and if anything I'm going to want maximum grip in a straight line (for when I boost it soon).

Thoughts/Opinions/Input?

I just don't see the need for a ton of negative camber if I:
a) never track the car
b) barely ever really push it in the corners
c) will need it to hook up well in a straight line
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:20 AM   #114
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I'd probably go at least -1.5 F and -1.0 R.

I'm running -1.8 F/R and mines a DD...
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:14 AM   #115
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I went with FM specs and I find it very well behaved.

However, if you're "not pushing it in the corners", you're not driving hard enough. Gotta hang it out once in a while to really enjoy it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:21 AM   #116
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That's the thing: this is a daily, even if I wanted to push it in the corners, I have like 2 corners on my commute to work, neither of which is anything exciting. I don't drive the car in the twisties much at all, and once the turbo stuff is on, my main concern will be straight line traction. Basically the only track time this car will see is the drag strip, otherwise its just a fun daily driver.

I'm not rejecting the alignment specs offered by FM or 949, I just think they're geared most towards maximizing corner speed, and not straight line traction or daily driver comfort, or anything like that (which most miata owners don't care about).

I guess I'm weird? lol

Why would I want more negative camber than my proposed settings?
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:24 AM   #117
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BTW I gotta say, the car handles great right now (with slightly distorted FM specs). Very neutral, completely controllable, and very quick in the few corners I decided to push it.

In the rain I was even more impressed: where before my previous car (on ricelands) would d0r1fto like crazy, this setup is perfectly balanced, and the only time the back end would step out was when I was really trying to get it to break loose. I really like that.
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So going from my current FM specs, what kinda driving characteristics would I be facing going to my proposed settings? What about 949 settings?

To recap:

Currently on FM Stg1 suspension.

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OEM Specs
FRONT
Caster +4.43 +/- 0.75
Camber 0.4 +/- 0.75
Toe 1/8" +/- 1/8

REAR
Caster not applicable, there is no adjustment possible
Camber -0.72 +/- 0.5
Toe 1/8" +/- 1/8"
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FM specs:
Front
Caster: 5.0 degrees
Camber: 1.0 degrees negative
Toe-in: 1/16", 0.15 or 9 arcminutes total (1/32", 0.075 or 4.5 minutes per side)

Rear
Camber: 1.5 degrees negative
Toe-in: 1/16", 0.15 or 9 arcminutes total (1/32", 0.075 or 4.5 minutes per side)
Quote:
949 specs
SuperMiata DD Alignment
>=12" front ride height (measured hub center to fender)

>=4.5" front ride height measured at forward most straight section of pinch weld with 205/50/15 or 225/45/15 tires

Front camber: -2 (or as close as you can get to it)
Caster: >4
Front total toe: 0

Rear camber : -1.8
Rear total toe: 0

My proposed "Daily Driver / Straightline traction car" specs:

Quote:
Front caster 4.5-5
Front camber -1
Front toe 0

Rear camber -0.5
Rear toe 0
??????????????
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Your proposed settings are probably fine and, if you are mostly commuting and driving like a Buick owner, you won't notice the difference between any of the settings anyway.
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What



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