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robertcope 10-13-2014 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by OGRacing (Post 1175109)
We offer Pre bedded race pads and rotors to our professional teams. but that's not an effort to sell harder pads. their track time is worth more than the extra $40 it costs to pre bed the pads and rotors. they can slap the equipment on and be racing or testing from the moment they leave the pits. normally on PFC it takes till the 3rd turn to bead in.

Are you saying that with pre-bedded pads, I can take new rotors and new (pre-bedded) pads, put them on and go, without any worry at all?

robert

OGRacing 10-13-2014 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by robertcope (Post 1175111)
Are you saying that with pre-bedded pads, I can take new rotors and new (pre-bedded) pads, put them on and go, without any worry at all?

robert

yea you can.. i was at the plant where they did it (Clover, South carolina). One Poor bastard sits on a brake dyno and spends all day beading in pads and rotors. then sends them off to nascar teams..

IMO if you buy a good quality pad and good quality rotor they will bead in with no problem. i had Good wins kit and hawk pads. couldn't get a transfer layer to save my butt. too many contaminants in the pads and rotors. switched over to PFC 01 and PFC rotors on trackspeeds 11.75" kit.. i haven't had the problem since.

Efini~FC3S 10-13-2014 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by robertcope (Post 1175111)
Are you saying that with pre-bedded pads, I can take new rotors and new (pre-bedded) pads, put them on and go, without any worry at all?

robert

No, he said they offer pre-bedded pads AND rotors i.e. a bedded set that have been worked as a pair.

You can buy pre-bedded pads straight from Carbotech but you still need to get a good transfer layer on the rotors before going hog wild on them.

A pre-bedded set of pads AND rotors doesn't require that. You can pull them straight out of the packaging, put them on the race car and do a 2.5 hour race.

A lot of pro teams do this because, as OG mentioned, track time is so limited (and expensive) that you don't have time to bed brakes and "scrub" tires, etc etc

OGRacing 10-13-2014 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1175117)
No, he said they offer pre-bedded pads AND rotors i.e. a bedded set that have been worked as a pair.

You can buy pre-bedded pads straight from Carbotech but you still need to get a good transfer layer on the rotors before going hog wild on them.

A pre-bedded set of pads AND rotors doesn't require that. You can pull them straight out of the packaging, put them on the race car and do a 2.5 hour race.

A lot of pro teams do this because, as OG mentioned, track time is so limited (and expensive) that you don't have time to bed brakes and "scrub" tires, etc etc

^exactly. To get the combo You need to be running a PRO style race caliper. PFC doesn't have any wilwood dynalights or miata calipers to bolt to the dyno.

hornetball 10-13-2014 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by OGRacing (Post 1175119)
^exactly. To get the combo You need to be running a PRO style race caliper. PFC doesn't have any wilwood dynalights or miata calipers to bolt to the dyno.

Most of us run the Wilwoods or OEM calipers. I would have been interested in pre-bedded pads + rotors, but it sounds like it would not have been available anyway. ??

emilio700 10-13-2014 04:44 PM

For those that already have healthy rotors with a transfer layer, yes you can slap prebed Carbotechs and race right out of the box. We do this all the time. One session of track time will always more than the $20 fee to prebed.

OGRacing 10-13-2014 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1175131)
Most of us run the Wilwoods or OEM calipers. I would have been interested in pre-bedded pads + rotors, but it sounds like it would not have been available anyway. ??

It's throwing cash away for a club racer.. for a pro team each lap could cost 100 bucks if you add in travel, Crew pay, Track rental (remember they rent the entire track for one car). If you have a Good rotor and High quality pad you won't have any issues with keeping or getting a transfer layer.

OGRacing 10-21-2014 12:08 PM

^that's not it. if you're making contact there would be marks on the bolt heads. i don't see any marks.


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