Just bought some coilovers!
 

hey, if you havent heard of the Raceland coilovers, here they are: Raceland Full Coilover Kit for Mazda MX5 NA

comes with a two year warranty, and was only 272 shipped to my door. Blueroadster on cr.net has a review for them, also checked google and read other reviews by others with other products and didnt necessarily read anything bad. they seem to sell quality products. i will write a full review once i get them

pic:

http://www.racelandus.com/images/pro...arge/66_1_.jpg

was it worth the money?

People will say rice, but where else can you get a set of coilovers that cheap?

I would run them, but I wouldn't tell the wealthy people...

Don't install them backwards.

You can upgrade the springs and add Koni inserts later.

i didnt really buy them for the sole purpose of tracking it weekly or anything. i dont visit the track often but i do drive my miata pretty hard down chicatawbut road once in a while. im just building a once in a while track car/daily driver. should be good for that right?

although i havent heard of them being any good for track use

dustin, i did manage to snap two studs off my LGT from not torquing my lugs down, hopefully i wont make such a careless mistake this time around

jacob300zx, thanks for the advice.

driving pretty hard on the street ~= FTD on any track. Street cred bro, some have it, some don't.

im well aware. just asking if it will hold up to occasional street abuse let alone dedicated track abuse.

The valves will puke quickly and the car will never handle. The only reason I wouldn't buy them is because I'd just buy revalved bilsteins so I don't have to work on that part of the car ever again.

And you have evidence to prove this claim?

Burn :hustler:

If someone proves they're shit (at being what they are, not anything they're never intended for of course) I'll never say a single word about them again. No one has yet. We're all sitting here with our thumbs up our asses proclaiming "if its cheap it must be garbage".

Im curious as well. I wouldnt ever buy them but I wonder how quickly the wear out.

Im sure we can all agree that they most likely have poor performance and likely will wear out somewhat quickly.
But the question is how poor is the performance and how quickly do they wear out? haha.

I don't think anyone out there is stupid enough to claim they actually PERFORM lol

They lower the car. To whatever height you want. They are EXTREMELY comfortable around town on a daily driver for being coilovers.

Ask me how I know:giggle:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t43340/

jacob300zx, do you know which springs will mate to these coilovers?? i just priced the koni inserts, will definitely do this once i start tracking it.

clairvoyance

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Fo Sho!!! Mrs. Cleo

you new here?

lol at ricers being butthurt b/c they can't rock the FCM or Koni with authority.

I bought these instead of buying oem replacements for pretty much the same cost, my frame rails scrape almost every speed bump in parking lots. I removed the helper spring and have about an inch before riding on bump stops and it rides way better than any car I have been in with coilovers. They're aren't as bouncy due to the soft springs but they're stiff enough to keep me from bottoming out while driving.

I'm riding on 15x7 195/50/15 toyo's.

:facepalm:

congratulations?

I bet the slamfags over at that other forum would be happy to hear that. I never understood why people can't wait and save up another couple hundred dollars to get something decent :hustler:

raise the car.

It will get raised when I get some spacers for these cheap wheels I got. I don't track my car or plan on doing it anytime soon and I like it this low.

The point of my post wasn't to tell you my car is low, it was to inform that these can go stupid low and still ride just fine, mine have probably 5k miles on them so far without any issues.

Albumleaf, care to explain how you know racelands aren't decent?

arent they essentially tokiko blues?

Well that's why.... I think most sane member would rather track the car or do any spirited driving on STOCK suspension rather than on racelands

Racelands > stock and for the cost, they're decent. I'm not saying they're going to out handle some tein flex's on a track.

I'm simply saying for what they are, cheap height adjustable coilovers that are stiffer than stock, they're decent.

Well for your taste they are decent as they are adjustable. All you keep writing about is ride height, not handling improvement which IMHO is the main characteristic of a suspension mod. As I mention before most of the member here would rather do any real driving on stock suspension. However there have not been any track testing on the Racelands, maybe someone should take them to the track and see what they're all about.

Maybe that should be done before you judge them without having had them on your own car? I did mention they were stiffer than stock without being bouncy.

Feels similar to a 240sx I had with tokico blues and eibach springs, stiffer than stock, removing a lot of body roll but not bouncing all over the place.

Having had them on my car for 1000 miles now I can SAFELY say that the car FEELS much better taking corners and driving it around town. I know that doesn't ammount to much, but I am CERTAIN that they are not any worse or same as stock suspension. They are better. No doubt about it.

Probably not MUCH better and probably nowhere near what real coil overs offer, but as stated 10000000000000000000000 TIMES BEFORE: NO ONE THAT HAS THEM CARES. They're better than stock for an insanely low price. Anyone that wants performance shouldn't be looking at 200 dollar coilovers. Its like looking for 2000 dollar ferrari.

Damn dog! I wish my shit could drag over speed bumps! Oh wait... it does. :cry: At least it wasn't intentional and it's on Bilsteins and FM springs. I hit a bump the other day going across campus and drug the "frame rails" and had 20 people turn and stare. I hung my head and drove off slowly. :giggle:

But for how long will it be better. To me it's not worth $200 if after a year/10k-15k miles they need to be replaced. Time will tell I guess.

I scrape on speedbumpes because my car is just better.

(sets trap)

I've gotten stuck once getting out of an apt. complex, had a big speed bump, sharp dip and then a even bigger speed bump, I had to go out through the exit after my friend sat on the trunk so I could get unstuck.

Some guy walking by was all looking under the car trying to see why it was making scraping noises lol.

No one knows and that's the point.
There are people with well over 10k miles on theirs in day to day driving and still working 100% like they did the 1st day.

Keep in mind that these were around for other cars LONG before they made them for miata's.

if they last me 10k miles I'll be happy. By that logic the brand name ones should last you 100-200k miles? How many people you know with that much mileage on their coilovers?

:dunno: My point was, I would rather spend 10x as much and not have to deal with them again for 60k-100k miles. I'm lazy and richer than an emperor, so it's no big deal. I just hate working on suspension. If they last 30k miles, I think that would be good enough for the cost.

I'd rather have a car that looks good and goes fast then one that is slower a fucking prius and stock looking.


I bought my car ton tinker/mess with it. And by that I mean try different shit and do stuff I wouldn't do with an expensive car and not worry about shit. Its a miata for goodness sake.
Do you track your car? No.
Is it fast? No
What do you do with it? Drive it around town slower than a slug on sedatives. Why wouldn't these coilovers work for you? Or would you just rather dream about shit for 10 years while everyone buys, mods, sells their miata's the whole time posting on the internet how you "will do this and do that" with expensive baller parts.

No offense man, I'd rather be called a ricer on the forums than drive a stock height/stock engine miata.





/threadjack:D

Ok, the Riceland are right for the price and stiffer than stock suspension, and so are ebay coilovers- for only $24.99, beat that.

Before all the Raceland users flame I really dont mean to hate, if the product meets your expectations then great!. Im not fortunate to have the ability to dump $1.5k+ in a suspension setting without having to save for many months, so I'm all for cheap/effective products.

To date there has not been failure with the Racelands, and I'm not hoping they fail. 18 I agree with your Ferrari analogy. I think we can say that the Racelands so far seem sound on street/daily/non-competitive use. However in the end it comes down to what a particular individual's goals are.

/\ EXACTLY
The problem with the 25 dollar spring/sleeve setup is that you have to put them on a stock shock. Most have blown stock shocks. The other problem is that the springs are WAYY too stiff of the stock shocks. so you basically don't get any kind of valving whatsoever, just sitting on spring. These things while not engineered to be properly matched for one another are still somewhat decent in spring-to-shock ratio (if that makes any sense lol)

CG + bilstien revalve = less than 1k FTW

Like hustler said I dont have to worry bout these going bad even with track abuse for a long time.

cg = control ground?

:D

Easy now, you're cutting deep. :giggle: Not sure if that was directed at me or just in general. My shit isn't stock height, but it sure is slow. I do talk big about future plans. I plan to follow through though.

Not as much at you as in general. I'm not in the mood to flame anyone today:)

I'm just saying: these are better than nothing and better than stock for 200. You want a ferrari you spend 200,000. You want a scion you spend 10. Each will not blow up and get the job done, just differently lol


If mine blow up or break, I promise I will be the FIRST asshole on here talking shit about them:giggle:

:jerkit:

yeah i'm working on a paper for my masters course, after administering a day long test at work. Needless to say i'm not at my best typing at the moment :o

hmm i might just try these on the ebay car lol thats a good name for it a whole car bought on ebay and everything but the MS comeing of ebay what 18 psi decsribes is exactly what the owner wants cheap but works.

Do it man, we need more OG's to test this shit:)

The way I see it, It's sort of like toilet paper. In stock form it's just a tree, and in mildly upgraded form it's a stiff piece of paper that rips your anus up and just spreads the shit around. The really expensive stuff is awesome but if you use too much it clogs your toilet. The sweet spot is the one in the middle that feels good and has kittehs on the front.

You're soooo original :slap:

I too had doubt about Raceland coilovers so I spent three days reading everything I could find on the web about them. then I contacted my mechanic at H1 Performance to review all my info before I decided to buy a set. Eladio was very impressed with the coilovers, they looked well built and installed easily. He aligned my car and set it up for my upcoming autocross event on Toyo 888's. Sue loved the set up and was not only the fastest lady driver but came in only 1/2 a second behind the fastest Corvette in our class SSM. We now have the car set up for a 3 mile road course on Hoosier R6's. So far we love the new coilovers and have had no problems with them. But our car is for racing only so it has no street time. One note..When I gave these to Eladio I told him if he thought they were junk then throw them away and put on a known brand set, so far has has recommended them to two of his other customers. I too am one who believes you get what you pay for so maybe the other folks are paying to much.

What are you mastering in?

UofH?

someone just needs to get them on a shock dyno, then everyone can stop bench racing.

LOL at the thought. If they dyno well, they won't last long!

j/k. Just sayin that it won't end the argument. I know one thing, I'd like to be the guy selling them right now. I'll bet he's making some money with them.

I'm seriously considering trying them...just for shits and giggles before I splurge on an FCM setup.

I hate chasing the suspension holy grail...I'm about to give up and just put my car back at 14" and do the damn speed limit.

Interesting, You sir have got me thinking stupid. Thanks :bangs:

Educational Administration

UH Clear Lake (but at SW campuses not at CL)

try my set up. see if yo ulike it.