Megan Racing coilovers
 

couldnt find a thread for these yet.

i dont know much about the company, and i am not sure about their product, but these are the cheapest set of coilovers i can find.

they cost about 900 dollars, and they have heavy spring rates at 10/8 and i believe 32 way adjustable damping.

they do look heavy, but for the price i shouldnt complain about the weight should I?

does anyone have any advice about these? If they are crap, I will just mix and match my suspension.

yeah, don't fucking buy them. I like how the advertise "32 way adjustable" They really mean 1-way adjustable with 32 clicks and more like 3-5 levels of damping. Fucking retards. Yeah dude, buy this cheap bullshit, I don't give a fuck.

They are not the "cheapest" on the market....... ;)
They are not over priced for what you are getting either.
Look to be comparable to the "Flexes", but with stiffer springs.
Same construction and adjustability and just a bit cheaper than Teins.
Look into rebuild availability......
Suspension really is one of those wear items that is also a "highly personalized" item. What may be good for one, may not be good for another.
My setup is only "great" at 10/10ths, which is only a fraction of its life.

if you are looking at cheaper coilovers then take a look at stance and bc racing. either way i would still get illuminas + fm springs. cant beat it for the price.

That's what I keep wanting to pull the trigger on but no 15x9 6UL fitment FTL so I in the meantime, I will keep waffling.

I have megan coilovers installed. Ill try to answer any question you have for them.

have they started to wear out on you already?
how hard is it to replace individual parts?
what is your opinion on their performance compared to coilovers such as tein flex?
and have you had any problems with them before?

have they started to wear out on you already? Ive had them for a bit longer than a year i believe. They have what i believed "settled". At about the half year mark, they have become a little softer.

how hard is it to replace individual parts? The coilovers are a direct fit. Getting our old crap out is another story.

what is your opinion on their performance compared to coilovers such as tein flex? Ive never driven another miata before so i can not directly compare. I can compare this however: My miata was able to completely outperform my cousin's S2000 on a turn.

and have you had any problems with them before? The 32 click adjustable is useless. There is a VERY NOTICEABLE difference between full soft and full hard. I think its very annoying adjusting it 32 times to get them all correct. The perfect setting for me? Full soft. As im sure you searched (Not), The springs on these coilovers are harsher than most. When i switched to 16" OEM wheels, the ride was not enjoyable. Back on my stock 14s, im loving it.

If i had a choice between Megans or (Name any coilover within 500 dollars of megans) I would chose the Megans. If i had to do it over again, i would go with a infamous AGX with springs combo.

Settled? If something changes with your springs or shock that means something's wrong with those parts.


:bowrofl: Tell your cousin that he is a retard ...

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i'll think i'll go with the FM combo then. haha

Well I wouldn't. The FM springs are not very stiff feeling.

I had Megans on my old 2.5RS and loved them. My buddy with a 240sx had a set too... loved them. My mate with a Miata has a set too and guess what? He loves them too.

They really are a good value coilover. If you buy a set you will love them. They may not have the brand name of other coilovers but they perform just as well, if not better than the Tein basics.

Don't let the haters sway you, they are really good fun to drive on. I'm selling my Bilstein/FM setup to pick up a set of coilovers, may get some of these again.

how much you gonna sell your FM kit for? the only thing im worried about the Megans other than how fast they might soften up on me, is my lack of knowledge on them.

I dont know how easy it will be just to replace a spring or shock if if i blow one out from the major potholes and interstate speed bumps on the ramps.

just replacing the single parts or sets of parts is my concern.

I understand that but you can buy replacement springs pretty easily and no doubt the same applies for the shock bodies.

They do seem to be somewhat unchartered territory in the Miata world, people really swear by Koni's or $$$$ coilovers. But in the Suby world Megans have really grown in popularity. I have never met a Megan owner who's disliked them. The only people I heard complaints from are those relaying what someone else said.

And while there probably is merit behind them not being the ultimate coilover setup, I find it hard to believe that the average consumer in the price range would be able to tell the difference.

I've never met a Megan owner who was fast on a track or autocross course, either. Asking a Megan owner how they like their suspension is like asking a virgin how they like sex; they don't have the qualifications to provide an opinion that's worth anything.

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I dissagree with that statement. There was a fella in a Subaru Legacy Outback Sport wagon who ran Megans and was competitive nationally in autocross, same fella also happened to be a Subaru Master Mechanic.

Even speaking to one of the workers at Gran Turismo East, a pretty well respected suspension tuning place down, had nothing but good things to say about them.

Does this look like a Subaru forum to you? Just because a suspension works well on one car doesn't mean it will do anything for another. Subies aren't even the same suspension DESIGN as a Miata.

feel free to disagree, but you're wrong. Off to the shock-dyno...

I'm completely aware of that and responded to you saying "Megan owner" which would include cars of other type.

Examples as such are to provide a little bit of assurance that they aren't going to blow up on you at first sight.

Hustler, wrong at what exactly? Have I made a claim anywhere about Megans being the be all end all of coilovers? Nope. I disagreed with a statement about all Megan autocrossers being slow and not worthy of opinion, backed up with evidence too. Which isn't really wrong.

Please help me out with some shock dyno's, I remember finding a bunch a whlie back but have failed at finding them since.

My thing with shock dyno's is how much they translate over to regular enthusiast use; daily driving, mountains runs, autocross and casual tracking. If I was building a race car I would spare no expense and get the best tested coilovers possible. But the vast majority of cars on here aren't being used for such use so I think these coilovers are an acceptable solution to most desires.

I have no desire to turn this into a flaming thread. I like talking about these issues.

:)

Spend your money at FCM. I want to give him my money, badly...but I have different goals.

Unfortunately, the last time I checked his prices, they were quite a bit more than the typical "budget" coilover. I enjoy his bumpstops which I'm currently running. I'm feeling experimental almost, willing to try some I've seen much of before.

I kind of like the pink D2 coilovers! :giggle:

When I was big into modding my '04 Forester XT, another local guy I used to wrench with put in the Megans in his '04 XT. They were very harsh on the street and made all sorts of noise daily driving. The springs were definitely too stiff for the shocks. There was so much jounce it felt like the shocks weren't doing any work. My car with JDM STI takeoff stock springs and shocks rode much better.

While not a fair comparison, my Miata has a FCM coilover setup. You can really tell when the springs are matched to the shocks on the street. Bumps and dips are swallowed up and the car just doesn't seem to bounce over them as much.

No track experience on either though. Hell I don't even have driving experience in my Miata in over a year. :vash:

Frank

It's funny, I swear there must be multiple spring rates on Megans. That sounds much more like the ride of my friends 240. On my RS they were pretty smooth, better than the AGX w/GC combo I had prior to them.

I talked to guy I sold them too and he also told me they seem smoother and less harsh than others he had ridden in.

Along the same lines, same cost, maybe even came out of the same factory (duno?)...are K-sports.

Koni Race- $1000. Not including perches, springs, or top hats.

Ksport/Megan- $900 SHIPPED ebay price. Includes monotube shocks, springs, top hats, and has adjustable shock body length (something konis don't have)...

OK, so the shock dyno says they suck. I'm still considering them as a hold-me-over until I can get some 3012s. They HAVE to be better than my AGX/Pro-kit. AGXs are possibly the worst shocks I've run in my life...

Comparing Koni Races to Megans/Dsport/VMaxxxxxxx/Etc is like comparing gay porn to an evening of sex with two supermodels of your choice.

Fair enough, but I'll bet that $800-$1000 difference when it's all said and done means a WHOLE lot more to me than it does to you. "Gay porn" is all I can afford just yet ;) I don't think anyone here is trying to say they are better or even as good. Just passable...
Of course, *if* I get a set of megan/ksport/BC/D2/whatever coilovers I could prove myself wrong.

FYI- yes, I've run different suspension setups on different cars. I've driven a miata on koni race with 700/400 at an autocross a few times. I ran konis on my prosolo championship car. I only have AGXs right now because I needed something uber-cheap used to get me by...and no, I've never ridden in or driven a car on any of the cheap setups... except the BC racing coilovers on a miata. That car had pretty dead rear V710s, but on the fairly smooth lot I enjoyed the car a lot. I didn't drive it on the street, so no clue there.

Anyone have any experience with partwerks.net? They've got the koni Race shocks for $218 and free shipping. Sports are $130. By far the best prices I've seen on the race version. For races figure $900 + ebay perches and Qa1 springs and you have an $1100 high end set up. Sports you could do a whole package for $700!

$218 is a smoking deal for Races.

^^^ Who the fuck are you? show knowledge or repent, you wiper of other peoples' bottoms.

stfu immediately or it will be the last time you ever piss me off. Final warning.

koni races for that cheap? im skeptic of it. are they a good match up for the JIC spring rates or better for tein spring rates.

i think JIC is 506/450 and tein is 392/336

Neither. Races are set up for rates in the 450-1100+ range. I run 700/450 and it's awesome. If you need a more supple ride for the mornings after your life partner "loves" you too hard, or you've spent all your money on lube to prevent the aforementioned mornings, you could do 550/350 rates and only use Race shocks in the front.

i dont think i need anything that high for the street though. i'd have to dodge every pothole which i try to do already, but its pretty hard

My 700/450 (12.5/8) car rides better on the street than a 9/6 Tein Flex car.

Actually Summit has them for $218 now too. Koni is running a spring 15% off sale right now. Several vendors have dropped the prices from the usual 250-280 each.

As I'm half-a-poof, I'm thinking very seriously about the race front, sport rear combo. Saves a couple hundred, more suspension travel and more forgiving ride for my baby soft heiney.

What length springs do you use on the Koni's? Worth bothering with a threaded perch or is the stock mount ok? Sorry for the thread jack. Just trying to get my suspension done and over with.

fuck you and your spring rate horse-shit. Lots of people including nation champs go to the softer rates. Bitch.

its okay. thread jack away as long as it stays suspension related. more questions means i get to learn more.

i dont know jack shit about anything yet. this is the first car i have started to mod.
suspension is a big unknown to me. if i go koni races i will still be undecided about what springs to use, if i should go adjustable perch or not, what bushings, and if i need shock bumps to use with FCM mounts.

3/4 fastest CA track miatas are on 12.5/8, 12/7 and 12/7. The 4th guy is on 9/7 or 10/7, IIRC. Soft rates are for autocrossers with aforementioned life partner issues.

I like to think that the Miata community is non-disriminating and focused on simply getting the most out of their cars. So please lay off hustler. His lifestyle choices, like his spring choices, are his to make.


I run Tein S-Techs, because well, my wife is a little rough with the strap-on sometimes.

Have you seen the sprint rates the fast CSP and ST Miatas are running? ;) 700/450 or stiffer and I haven't heard anyone going to softer rates. More CSP autocross Miatas see higher lateral G than track Miatas - not many track guys are running the 275 Hoosier A6 or wider ...
225 Hoosier A6 has more grip than similar NT-01 and 275 Hoosier A6 has much more grip than the NT-1. Now imagine sub 2000lbs car on those tires ...
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the texas crew goes a different direction, so does a national champ, and whatever. I have no real data other than friend's track times and I'll have more facts in about 1-month when I skullfuck a bunch of rich people. We'll see if I need more valving.

You've been saying that for at least 3 months now. Many have already lost hope that you'll even take your car to a track, ever.

may 22 is the next track day I've paid for...hopefully I'll get a shake-down before then. Its been a long fucking time.

Spring lengths to use on the Koni's? Sports and races. Adjustable perches worthwhile or is the stock included perch OK?

QA1 springs are cheap and well regarded quality wise. Limited lengths available though. Race front, Sport rear, QA1 springs on the included perches and you've got a quality set up for $850.

i checked out the QA1 springs today.
definitely cheap. what is normal spring length for aftermarket miata kits...12inchs?

i want to downsize my wheels to 14x8 so i will probably go with a spring length about an inch shorter than most.

making this my street go-kart.

make sure the qa1 springs won't block. I haz swift springs because I's a man.

swift springs have a pretty light spring rate right? lowers the car only 1 inch?

i think im going with the 10in springs 450/550 rates. just wondering how much this is gonna drop my car.

Mouthbreather?

needs more suicide.

well they dont run the rates i want in 12 inch springs......so my next closest choices are 14s or 10s so i will have to go with 10s.

if i wanted to be ricer about it, i would take it even lower. guess i dont need to worry about bottoming out though in those "brOOtal" turns though seeing this is a daily driver.

i'll make it track ready if i buy my neighbors car in a couple of months.
supra for streets and miata for track.......tasty combo

I run 7" springs up front, 6" springs in back. I need 6s up front, I'm getting a little coil bind.

swift springs have less coils per spring to stop blocking.

savington - what spring rates are you running
edit: nm savington. i saw your previous post with the rates.

hustler - can you get swifts in ordered rates...or are they a predetermined rate that just comes with the package

I'm talking about 2.5"id springs. You can get them in almost any rate and any length.

I know the Canadian guy who won Nationals in that CSP car in 07.

The shorter spring has less travel available, so if you're getting coil bind with the 7" you'll coil bind the 6" even sooner ...

If you want a spring which offers more travel for the length -> get either Hyperco's new OBD series or Swift.
I went with Hyperco because I've heard from a bunch of sources that Swift lose their rate over time and that Hyperco are the best out there.

Just an update for Sav since I probably made him throw up with some of my comments about cheap coilovers. I have koni race shocks and koni adjustable perches in the mail to me...and am working on getting the springs as we speak. No MR stuff for me, even though I am still a little curious.

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