MiataRoadster Short Throw (MRSS)
 

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Put one in my MSM and totally changed the feel and reduced throw by about 50%. IMO a must have for anyone who likes to drive their car even in the slightest of spirited manners because it just gets you so connected to the car :)

Can't wait to use my Simpson Design with angled extender.

I love the tall version in mine. I agree with it completely changing the feel of the shifter.

Probably better than almost punching the stereo shifting into 3rd.

I feel like our shifters are already short as hell.
When you guys say "feel" what do you mean? Its less sloppy? Its more precise? There is no play in it whatsoever? Because 50% shorter throws isn't enough to get me to drop $250 on a shifter

Less sloppy, more precise, easier effort. I got the tall one. Bill at MR said he's out of the standard height and trying to find a decent shop to machine them.

Granted, my experience with it was all of 20 min before my motor went boom.

it makes the gears much less vague. It feels like flipping a switch when you shift. Very clear engagement and most people who missed shifts say it helps a lot, provided a damaged syncro is not the problem.

I want to buy the tall one but don't know if the bend will annoy me. I have been waiting for several months for a straight one from Bill.

It's the lower bushing that makes the shifter feel better, not the rest of that stuff. If you have the "small ball" on your 6-speed you can get one from Mazdaspeed for $9.

The bend is nice. The throw on the long / bent shifter rod is very close to the throw of the stock shifter but your hand is closer to the wheel.

On a side note, the fulcrum points are nearly identical on the early 99-00 6-speed miata transmission shifter as it is to a RX7 TII shifter.

I'll report back once I get everything bolted together. Still many months away.

I saw that on mazdaspeed. Looking at the stock shifter it seems like there is rubber isolation between the upper and lower parts of the shifter for NVH. The MR version is solid.

I will likely go your route with MS bushing, extend length and heavier knob.

I'd rather have the delrin piece Miataroadster sells, but I'm not giving that cockfag, temper tantrum babya penny of my money and I hope you do the same.

Hustler, I've heard you mention this before. Do you know if this is relevant for 5 speeds as well?

Lets put it this way I have the tall bent one from MR and I wont go back to stock EVER!! Even if I buy a new miata its the first thing I'm going to do!:2cents:

Same here. Fantastic product from the drivers standpoint.

I have the tall angled shifter from MR and it is significantly more crisp than stock. Although, I prefer a lighter shift knob on it rather than a heavy one; I had a 400g knob at the end of my shifter and it felt a little too vague. Overall the MR shifter was a good purchase and I would say it's a large improvement over stock.

No idea. Measure your ball and I'll measure mine.

AFAIK, the 5-speed ball is the same size across the board (15mm). This is also the same as the early 6-speeds.

If you have a 5spd, an aluminum bushing is available for you.

I have an beatrush aluminum one available. PM me if you want it.

There is always the option of an angled extension like i got off ebay. Then your not stuck with the angle if it bugs you. Mine was sub $200 for the Simpson & extension and delrin bushing. Simpson unit also has a delrin fulcrum ball rather than metal.

I have a Joyfast Long shift knob on mine its great

The Simpson unit doesn’t properly modify the fulcrum length to dimensions that work really well for a short shifter with an extended shaft and the Delrin ball is garbage compared to the double pin design with double early oem pin slot bushings as far as providing smooth and precise movement and action like the Miataroadster unit does. I have experience with both shifters. Night and day difference.

Well, ****. I hope it's still an improvement over stock. Bbundy, would you happen to have a pic of the two side by side?

Any confirmation on this?

lol

MR long Shifter is a nice change as the 6 speed in my msm has some nasty shifting. Compared to my household 350z, it still isn't on par before or after the MR shifter. You would need to have some serious shifter issues to justify the price which I did on this track car.

The Delrin bushing that comes with the kit sucks nuts, it feels great for about a month then it got stuck in the turret and I can't for the life of me get it out lol. A lot of guys from the other forum have had this problem too, apparently bill said he'd send out a revised replacement but that was like almost last year.

I had this problem also
I got the revised version soon after and that didnt fit either so im using the factory bushing at the moment and have a beatrush one on the way will let you guys know how that works out
Either way the rest of it is still amazing

Do you know if the new one you got was any different in dimension compared to the old one? Can you even get the old one out lol? I broke one of my god damn Snap-On angle picks trying to get that bastard out.

My problem was the first one kept falling down the shifter turret and the second one wouldnt fit in the shifter turret so I just used my factory one its a little worn so I have ordered the beatrush shifter bushing hopefully that will arrive this week and I can give you guys some feedback

Along with pics of my new short console thats coming with the bushing

The only reason I have kept my floppy OEM shifter instead of buying one of these (with extension) is they refuse to offer it without both upper and lower boots. That's $70 right there, and I already replaced those half a year ago. I understand the point of having backups, but hell, a torn shift boot wouldn't stop me from driving. I'd just wait for a replacement to come in then. Kinda poor marketing I think. Otherwise, these things are AMAZING. Had the pleasure of feeling one in a car at a local shop here.

Shorter throw AND easier effort? I don't think so buddy, shorter throw will require more force to shift it.

I didn't make that claim. I have the taller one, so the effort is easier, but the throw doesn't feel any shorter.

In theory it doesn't need more force. It has a modified fulcrum point which givesore leverage. Think about it this way; what's easier to get a bolt off with? A ratchet? Or a ratchet with a jack handle on the end? That's essentially what it is.

Actually the modified fulcrum point takes away leverage. The longer handle is what gives the leverage. I'm guessing if its stock throw then they lifted the fulcrum point just enough to prevent making the throw bigger. End result is moved shift knob for easier handling and that's it. On the other hand if you want to make the shifter easier to shift you'd have to extend the throw. If you want to make the throw shorter, it would be harder to shift.

Oh. Shit.

Now i'm mad i bought that bushing separately.

What transmission in your car? Late 6spd by chance? Heard conflicting reports as to whether or not the Beatrush works on the MSMs in particular.

I have had no issues with my MRSS. Vast improvement over stock. I have the tall, angled shifter. I'd like to drive one with the normal height shifter to compare; I think I might prefer the regular height one. But what I have is better than it was stock.

Its a '98NB so first 6 speed

Well shit. :(

I have the shorty in the MSM and the tall/angled in the track car. Both are excellent. Both 6 speeds are MSM and the bushing can take a LONG time to get it. I've thought it wasn't fitting also but grease it up a bit and gently spin it around (like a Hustler rim job... :giggle: ). It will eventually fall in the hole with almost no effort when its ready.

I got the long angled arm for my 04MSM and it everything went in smoothly without issue fwiw.

Are you talking about the Delrin bushing?

Hi Ben, I suggest buying the shifter and replacing the bushing with a metal unit like the 5X racing or beatrush.

Well now that's ticking me off a bit. I didn't buy the metal units because they didn't list the late 6 speed as an application and not a single vendor could confirm if it would work or not.

So... i bought the Delrin bushing separately because it was advertised as fitting the late 6 speed. :brain:


I don't really want the shifter at all. I did however, buy a full shifter rebuild kit from another vendor. Just wanted a better bushing than stock in there when i got around to it. Would prefer to use the bushing i already spent my cash on, but if it doesn't work right, then it doesn't work right.

Should i take this thread as confirmation that one of the metal units will work in the late 6spd?

I would love the answer to that as well. I'm supposedly getting one of these short shifter kits in the next shipment.

Yes,

Sometimes they go right in and sometimes they take 10 minutes to fit. Don't force it or wedge it in. Slow and steady with some gentle rotation and it will suddenly slip in without a thousandth of play in any direction.

I guess I got one of the ones that just falls right in because I had no trouble with my metal bushing.

So is 5x as good as beatrush?

I agree with the cost to benefit point but remember to have the shifter fluid changed to make shifting smoother. This small maintenance detail makes a big feel difference.

5-speeds are all the same.

I installed my normal height MR short shifter today and changed the transmission oil to Amsoil 75w90. The shifter feels great and I recommend it. I had problems with the 4-5 shift but that is gone now. I cant say I felt a difference from the tranny fluid but its good to know that that bit of maintenance is taken care of.