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zoomin 06-25-2009 02:14 AM

minor issue with the 6UL's
 
I put them on Friday and had them off Monday to swap out my front rotors, discovered that the nickel "coating" where the lugs go started flaking off!! Are they really that cheaply made?? Man I miss my Panasports, they were definitely a superior wheel in build quality. Anyone else had any similar issues?

jayc72 06-25-2009 02:16 AM

I'm sure you contacted Emilo before posting here right?

sbrian2 06-25-2009 08:19 AM

My gen 1 nickels have a lot of chips too. I am not too impressed with the finish quality on them but I love the wheels themselves. I will probably have them refinished eventually.

hustler 06-25-2009 08:25 AM

um..you're not complaining about the finishing coming off where the lug contacts the wheel, right?

I'm pretty impressed with the finish quality so far.

tann3r 06-25-2009 09:00 AM

I'm running the 2-piece mcgard lugs and have not had any chipping on my nickel 6uls.

skidude 06-25-2009 10:08 AM

If it's right where the lug rubs on the wheel, I would not be surprised at all, but if it's just where the socket bumps around the lug, I would say contact Emilio. My silver ones have been flawless (except when they rub, but that's not the wheel's fault)

Doppelgänger 06-25-2009 10:49 AM

Yes, they are that cheap... might as well get rid of them now before all the finish comes off. I'll give you a couple hundred bucks for them because i'll have to spend a couple hundred bucks getting them refinished.

cueball1 06-25-2009 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 423435)
um..you're not complaining about the finishing coming off where the lug contacts the wheel, right?


Ding Ding Ding! Yes he is!

I don't know about him but I want the paint gone there. Helps with keeping lugs torqued at the track.

ScottFW 06-25-2009 11:59 AM

The nickel is gone where the lug contacts them on mine, which I'd say is to be expected given that it's a painted finish. It's not like you see that area when they're on the car, so who cares?

mrtonyg 06-25-2009 12:25 PM

Upload a photo or two.

sbrian2 06-25-2009 01:02 PM

Mine are chipping in a lot of spots other than the lugs. Where the lugs are I would expect to chip.

jayc72 06-25-2009 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by sbrian2 (Post 423541)
Mine are chipping in a lot of spots other than the lugs. Where the lugs are I would expect to chip.

Where? Are you running street tires or R's?

hustler 06-25-2009 01:12 PM

oh my god, 949 racing sucks!!! The lug seats are scratched!!! OMFG, I have to be with a man right now!!!

jayc72 06-25-2009 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 423545)
oh my god, 949 racing sucks!!! The lug seats are scratched!!! OMFG, I have to be with a man right now!!!


Mine are chipping in a lot of spots other than the lugs. Where the lugs are I would expect to chip.
I think your desire to be with a man has little to do with 6ULs.

y8s 06-25-2009 01:39 PM

man my 6uls are chipped. perhaps it is related to my kumho R700 tires.

sbrian2 06-25-2009 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 423544)
Where? Are you running street tires or R's?

Azenis. I bought them second hand for cheap enough that I didn't care about the chips. I know the previous owner and doubt he was rough enough on them to warrant the damage they have though. I really don't care for the nickel finish anyways and plan to re-do them in gunmetal w/ a machined lip like the SSR Comps they replaced.

hustler 06-25-2009 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by sbrian2 (Post 423578)
Azenis. I bought them second hand for cheap enough that I didn't care about the chips. I know the previous owner and doubt he was rough enough on them to warrant the damage they have though. I really don't care for the nickel finish anyways and plan to re-do them in gunmetal w/ a machined lip like the SSR Comps they replaced.

If you think that looks better, lol.

levnubhin 06-25-2009 03:31 PM

Mine have a lot of chips, but they are Sav's old track wheels so it's to be expected. That said I would like info on have them redone.
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zoomin 06-25-2009 09:01 PM

It is where the lug nuts contact the wheel, otherwise they do look great and are a tad lighter. So for the cheap price I will just be careful with them and hope they last.

hustler 06-26-2009 09:17 AM

wah wah wah, my pretty wheel has a nick, wah wah wah. Its a shitbox budget gay-dude ride, not a Ferrari. If you don't like it, but Volks for 3x the price and quit crying like queers.

TonyV 06-28-2009 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 423591)
Mine have a lot of chips, but they are Sav's old track wheels so it's to be expected. That said I would like info on have them redone.

I'd give Jared a shout it I were you

NA6C-Guy 06-28-2009 11:44 AM

:magna::greddy::pitlab::ky::riaa::greddy2: This thread is full of homosexual activity. No shit the paint is going to chip off of the lug seats. If using a standard 1 piece lug, thats for the best. I use Mcgard 2 piece lugs so I don't have any loose chips stuck under the lug to worry about letting my lugs loose.

Trent 06-28-2009 04:47 PM

Yeah, mine did that too.

emilio700 07-01-2009 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by zoomin (Post 423387)
I put them on Friday and had them off Monday to swap out my front rotors, discovered that the nickel "coating" where the lugs go started flaking off!! Are they really that cheaply made?? Man I miss my Panasports, they were definitely a superior wheel in build quality. Anyone else had any similar issues?

Many of the gen I's (discontinued in September '08) had paint in the lug seat that would sometimes chip on the nickels. The Gen II's very specifically have no paint in lug seat area for that reason. There is a long list of changes between the gen I and gen II. Tiny details, some major differences. Many of which I never mention until someone asks or brings up a concern about the discontinued version. I'm guessing you have some of the discontinued Gen I's. Did you buy them new or used?

Assesing build quality based on paint in the lug east area is a bit of a stretch. I was a Panasport dealer for a few years. I can tell you that no finite element analysis was ever done on that classicly beautiful but very under engineered wheel. Ever wonder why they're so damn heavy?

y8s 07-01-2009 09:55 AM

I vote for a panasport look-alike made by 949 that is engineered and fits big goodwin brakes.

gospeed81 07-01-2009 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 425628)
I vote for a panasport look-alike made by 949 that is engineered and fits big goodwin brakes.

Big +1

emilio700 07-01-2009 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 425628)
I vote for a panasport look-alike made by 949 that is engineered and fits big goodwin brakes.

LOL.

It's intrinsically a heavy design. It would be like trying to make a 3400 lb Mustang handle like a Miata because you like the way the Mustang looks. That's not the way I'm wired. I'll concentrate on 6UL's and 6ULR's thank you.

y8s 07-01-2009 01:09 PM

that's cool. but what's a 6ULR??

emilio700 07-01-2009 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 425664)
that's cool. but what's a 6ULR??

Wheel Tech

y8s 07-01-2009 01:52 PM

ahh ok. I'm very familiar with spinning from when I used to work at an architectural lighting company and all of our aluminum reflectors were made this way. It's somewhere between art and science but yields a very clean chuck-side shape.

Stein 07-01-2009 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 425664)
that's cool. but what's a 6ULR??

It's what all the cool people are sporting now. (Needs to change sig to add the AAARRRRRRR)






Oh, and get them mounted...:facepalm:

Saml01 07-01-2009 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 425656)
LOL.

It's intrinsically a heavy design. It would be like trying to make a 3400 lb Mustang handle like a Miata because you like the way the Mustang looks. That's not the way I'm wired. I'll concentrate on 6UL's and 6ULR's thank you.

Yet people do that everyday.

Savington 07-01-2009 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 425716)
Yet people do that everyday.

Slow people. :loser:

msydnor 07-01-2009 07:04 PM

I actually agree with Hustler on this one. It's not like you are paying mega bux for these wheels.

zoomin 07-01-2009 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 425587)
Many of the gen I's (discontinued in September '08) had paint in the lug seat that would sometimes chip on the nickels. The Gen II's very specifically have no paint in lug seat area for that reason. There is a long list of changes between the gen I and gen II. Tiny details, some major differences. Many of which I never mention until someone asks or brings up a concern about the discontinued version. I'm guessing you have some of the discontinued Gen I's. Did you buy them new or used?

Assesing build quality based on paint in the lug east area is a bit of a stretch. I was a Panasport dealer for a few years. I can tell you that no finite element analysis was ever done on that classicly beautiful but very under engineered wheel. Ever wonder why they're so damn heavy?

These are BRAND NEW 6UL's, so I assume you sent me new Gen II's. Or maybe you didn't?? All I know is that I waited 2 months for a set of wheels I assumed wouldn't have the coating peel off the first time I removed them. I can live with it and they look great otherwise, but was just surprised is all.

I had some of the rarest Panasports ever sold in the US, so I guess my expectations were a bit on the high side with the 6UL's. My apologies if I got anyone's panties in a bunch.

papasmurf 07-01-2009 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 425587)
I can tell you that no finite element analysis was ever done on that classicly beautiful but very under engineered wheel. Ever wonder why they're so damn heavy?

LOL, hats off to anyone who brings up FEA in conversation.

black roadster 07-01-2009 11:04 PM

My nickle 6ULs look really pretty sitting in my living room. I wanted to sleep with them but my wife nixed that idea. :dunno:

emilio700 07-02-2009 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by zoomin (Post 425796)
These are BRAND NEW 6UL's, so I assume you sent me new Gen II's.

So you have a warranty concern. Its not complicated. Pick up the phone and call me or email directly.

Savington 07-02-2009 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by black roadster (Post 425864)
My nickle 6ULs look really pretty sitting in my living room. I wanted to sleep with them but my wife nixed that idea. :dunno:

Alimony: it's like making payments on your 6ULs

hustler 07-02-2009 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 426110)
So you have a warranty concern. Its not complicated. Pick up the phone and call me or email directly.

let him talk shit about it on the internet for a few more pages first.

Dibs on the defect set for "ugly car."


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 426145)
Alimony: it's like making payments on your 6ULs

Too bad about prop-8.

Doppelgänger 07-06-2009 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 426172)
let him talk shit about it on the internet for a few more pages first.

Dibs on the defect set for "ugly car."


Too bad about prop-8.

I already put dibbs like 3 posts in, dipstick.

yayYo 07-09-2009 02:22 PM

i too have the the gen II nickels..
i really dont think you can find better bang for the buck

hustler 07-11-2009 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by yayYo (Post 428452)
i too have the the gen II nickels..
i really dont think you can find better bang for the buck

sportmax.


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